Rusty Lake Paradise with Hypes - Episode 42!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Hello and welcome to Peds Game Shack. This is the 42nd episode and it's been the first episode in a while. My fault, you know, things happened. Moving house, various other things kind of slow things down. Even though it's been about eight months. But hopefully that will change and we'll get more regular episodes out regularly. Yeah, regular. Regular episode regularly. Anyway, we have Hypes with us again. How are you doing, Hypes? [00:00:54] Speaker A: All right? Yeah, good, thanks. Honored to be here on the 42nd episode. 42. It's a good number, as all you nerds will know. Yep, the answer to everything. So better do a good podcast. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Is it as important as a 64 or a 69? [00:01:16] Speaker A: I say, what's a 64? [00:01:18] Speaker B: 64. I was thinking n 64. [00:01:21] Speaker A: N 64. 64. Bits. Yeah. Remember, bits. Remember, bits were important. Life was simpler when we all just cared about bits. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Yeah, well, now everyone cares about. I was gonna say console wars, but that's always been a thing. I remember in the playgrounds when everyone would be like, oh, the Sega Mega Drive is better. Or I love the Super Nintendo. But I was more like, I have both. So I don't care what you guys think. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Where did you grow up with people with accents like that? Pence. [00:01:55] Speaker B: I don't even know what acc. I would. I don't even know the accent, what I was doing, to be honest with her. Honestly, no clue. [00:02:02] Speaker A: People care about 4k and 8k now. Graphics, 60fps, whatever. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Yeah, honestly, I'm not bothered by 4k. I guess some people do, especially with massive TVs. Like, the bigger then obviously higher resolutions better. Me are more. I came with certain games, like, say, Rocket League, for example. I prefer 120 frames per second to 100 to 60 frames per second, for example. But that's a me thing. [00:02:30] Speaker A: I've got 4K TV. Don't have anything that plays 4K, so paying extra for Netflix Extra or. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that's understandable. [00:02:43] Speaker A: And yeah, Switch doesn't do it. There you go. [00:02:48] Speaker B: When you get into Switch too, [00:02:52] Speaker A: when some games come out that I want, Generous benefactor gets me one. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, to be honest, I'm. I'm on a bit of a. Bit of a retro kick, really. I'm not even playing the Switch games. I have that have. I've not got. Got through to. You know, I've. I've re plugged in and set up my Wii U and rehacked and got out my 3ds. I'm hitting it up like it's 2013 or whatever. Good times. [00:03:28] Speaker B: Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that at all. I need to set up all my older consoles since moving. Like I said, it's been about eight months but I still haven't set up all my old consoles I had set up. I wish I had a mansion. I could do with one. Not because I want lots of space, I just want. I don't even want a mansion, I just want another house. Games room. Yeah, I just want a games room for all my games. [00:03:56] Speaker A: We all need, isn't it? Place where you can have all your consoles set up. [00:04:01] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:04:02] Speaker A: Play them because you know there's still something more about actually playing on the original hardware rather than just emulating everything on PC, isn't there? [00:04:12] Speaker B: There is. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Of the whole experience. [00:04:14] Speaker B: It is, yeah. [00:04:16] Speaker A: It's crazy Somewhere to put. Put an old CRT TV live that I've had since 2005. It's just been sitting in a cupboard. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Last CRT I had was a few years ago and someone like moved out of where they were and they were desperate for TV so I just gave them that. Even though it was like really old tv but it was. It was better, it was better to have that TV than no TV. [00:04:42] Speaker A: So there you go. TVs are. TVs are nothing these days, aren't they? When you used to. The old days, my parents used to like rent a tv. Blimey. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah. When I got my. When I first got my own place about another. My first place. First place that my misses moved into. So it was the. Because I was in a flat and I was in another house. So my third place I was living in, I was about 18, 19 and to buy a TV what I did was I got it from the local TV shop and I had a pound meter put on it and I had to put pounds into the meter to pay. And then every month they'd come, take the pounds, work out how much you'd spent, how much you owed and then whatever's left over, they'd give you the pounds or you could add it and they'd cover extra towards the next month. That's what I used to do. Pound meter for a pound in a box in the back of the TV and it go in and I think it was like a pound is four hours. So you'd have to like put a pound in every four hours to keep [00:05:48] Speaker A: it going this stupid like that dystopian night. [00:05:52] Speaker B: No, I think, I think I assumed. I think it was just rentals or something. I assume that they were the People doing it and then other people copied. I think that's what it's called. Anyway. I only remember. I can't remember the name of the company. I think it's just Reynolds. But their ads featured Watson Telly. Watson, Remember those? I don't know if you're in Wales at the time. Hello, my name's Watson. Watson Telly. And that's how it start. [00:06:21] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, no. Don't we call that at all. [00:06:26] Speaker B: They'll have to look on YouTube to see if it's on there. Just to post it on the. I'll put an image of Watson telly on the. On the podcast for people who look on YouTube. [00:06:36] Speaker A: HTV special. [00:06:38] Speaker B: No, it was. It wasn't an S4C thing, but it was obviously broadcast in Wales. I don't think it was. Would have been shown in England and stuff. Because it was based in Wales. Yeah. You had money, like. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Harsh times. [00:06:59] Speaker B: Well, the mines were closed down in Wales and screwed over, so no one had money. [00:07:04] Speaker A: They were. They were. [00:07:05] Speaker B: I remember, same as north of England. All their mines were closed. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Well, all the mines were closed in the southern and south of England as well. They just weren't any. So, yeah, [00:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah, different time, definitely. So moving on from Watson. Tally sure. It was pronounced Watson. Like Watson. Like from Sherlock Holmes on Watson. Watson. Yeah. Yeah, we'll move on from that because there's no point talking about Watson Telly anymore. But we are going to be talking about a game today called. [00:07:56] Speaker A: Why is it called Pets? [00:07:59] Speaker B: Rusty Lake Paradise. I honestly kept think. I keep thinking it's River Lake, but it's not. It's Rusty Lake paradise [00:08:07] Speaker A: is Rusty. [00:08:09] Speaker B: Yes. Rusty Lake Paradise. Basically, I suggested we play this game for one simple reason. I've been editing older episodes of the podcast to put the videos up onto YouTube with game images or gameplay footage. And a couple of the podcasts that we did, we discussed you playing and me dabbling point and click games. And I thought. I thought, oh, I wonder if Hypes would be up for a podcast about a point and click game. And then I asked and you said yes. And I was like, right, now I need to find one. [00:08:56] Speaker A: Always up for a point and click game. It's how I live my life. Point and click. Point and click. [00:09:01] Speaker B: See what happens. Exactly. Yeah. So that's how it came about. I just thought it'd be fun to get back into it and look for something that I know you would. Would appeal to you because of the genre of game. Like, obviously, I don't know if the game Appealed to you in the sense of it. You found it good. But it's the genre that you like. [00:09:27] Speaker A: Indeed, yes, I do like that genre. One of my favorite puzzle Sol. Yeah. What did you think of it? Or what do you think of the genre? I remember, you know, it must have been your Retro Tuesdays. Was that what it was? [00:09:46] Speaker B: Retro Monday? Yeah. [00:09:47] Speaker A: Retro Mondays. And I got you to play Indiana Jones and Last Crusade, one of my favorite point click games. And I don't think you got out of the first bit. You sacked it off pretty quickly. [00:09:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I'm weird with point and click games. I. I think I've mentioned them to you before. Like some of them I get on really well with. Like, I love the first Super Monkey Island. Never finished the second Super Monkey Island. I love Dark side Detective. Haven't played the second Super Monkey Island. [00:10:16] Speaker A: Pets. [00:10:16] Speaker B: Did I say Super Monkey Island? [00:10:18] Speaker A: He did the Super Monkey Ball. I like the idea of Super Monkey Island. Spanky's running around in balls. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Sorry. Monkey Island. I don't know why I said Super Monkey Island. Monkey Island. I really like Monkey Island 2 LeChuck's Revenge. Never finished. [00:10:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I must have finished at some point. I. I bought, you know, the new Monkey island, whatever it's supposed to be. I think it's supposed to follow on from 2, but return to Monkey Island. I think it's Returned to Monkey Island, Return to Super Monkey Island, Various things. Return seed Monkey Island. And so I played Escape from Monkey island and I was going to play all the Monkey Islands to get up to release and then play it. I played Skate from Monkey Island. I love it. It's classic. Played it when I was younger. Know what I'm doing. Played Chuck's Revenge. Couldn't get on with it. It's slightly different and it's just a bit more. And I don't know what I'm doing as well as I do with the first one. And yeah, I sort of left it and then, yeah, just this weekend I started going back to it and got on a bit further. So I've got that to do and then return to my garden to do. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. That's the thing with me. It's like I enjoy point click games because a lot of the time they are funny games, well written games, but it comes to a point where there's always some really obscure bullshit and it's like, I give up. My brain doesn't work like this. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. No, I certainly get that in, you know, a lot of the lucasarts ones. At least there's at least one obscure. You're like, what the hell? What am I doing? Yeah, why have I got to do this with this? How did you feel about Rustic Lake Paradise? Did you get stuck too much? Did you feel anything was too obscure? I think the thing with Rustle paradise is, you know, it didn't give you that many options. There's no open talk to walk, give, pick up, push, pull. It's, it's click, click, click, click, click. Isn't it really? [00:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's quite simple. In terms of [00:12:34] Speaker A: the interface. [00:12:35] Speaker B: Yeah, interface. In comparison to some of the older games or probably even the new ones, I don't really know. I haven't played a lot recently. But as in the last while. But I, I, I thought it was all right. It wasn't too difficult. There were parts I was like, oh, what I do with this? And then like, I'd work it out after a little bit. It was something I would consider like quite an entry level point and click adventure for people who were like, oh, I love the look of the genre. Get me wrong, like Super Monkey Island. Monkey island is like a much, much better game, but this is easier to like get into in the sense of it's easier to work things out. So I think if you start with games like this and build onto it to Monkey island and I know Grim Fandango and whatever else, you're gonna, you're gonna ease yourself in better than just jumping straight into the deep end and then getting frustrated, I guess. But yeah, I, I had a good time with it. Like I said, there were times where I was like, I'm not really sure what to do or I'd work something out, but I'd have to like work something else out for that next thing to happen. Like there was a puzzle right at the end of the game and it was to spell out a word. Well, I, I load because you get a lot of letters on like a, like a, on a thing on a wall and you have to like move a slider up and down to spell out a word or just could have been random letters. I spelled out the word and it didn't work. And then I had to go do a lot of other stuff, including hatch, chick. [00:14:33] Speaker A: And then how did you sort of guess the word? [00:14:35] Speaker B: I, I thought, well, it's probably that word and it was that word. But it didn't do anything until I did the rest of the puzzles and then it worked. [00:14:42] Speaker A: I think I did that with some other puzzle first. I sort of worked out what I thought it was but it wouldn't let me do it because. Yeah, I hadn't actually reached the way to find out the solution in the game. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think that's. That's one issue with these kind of games is you can't really break them [00:15:02] Speaker A: because it's not open world. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Yeah. You. If you work something out too early then it just doesn't. If you work something out too early then it'll me. I guess it'll mess up other puzzles in some way maybe. Or if it's like what I word that was right near the end. So all I need to do is get through the door, do a couple more puzzles and that was it. So we wouldn't have made any effect to anything else like. [00:15:30] Speaker A: But equally, I suppose, you know, it makes you solve a puzzle rather than just either guessing or brute forcing the answer. You know, I started to try to do that with I think one of the puzzles where you had to mix up a concoction to give someone to drink. And I didn't quite have the answer somewhere so I just sort of guessed it all and I did the right thing but it didn't work because I haven't yet got the correct bit of the puzzle that told me what it was and brute force and it wouldn't allow me. Anyway. We should probably explain what the game actually is. [00:16:13] Speaker B: I did, I did explain what I was. Rusty Lake paradise is a point and click adventure. [00:16:17] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's by Rusty Lake who have evidently done Rusty Lake Hotel and Rusty Lake Roots. I don't know which one of them was first and I presume they're both pointing clicks as well. [00:16:31] Speaker B: I have no idea about them. [00:16:35] Speaker A: But yeah. This is a game set on an island. Rusty Lake Island, I guess. And it's based sort of based around the plagues. Plagues of Egypt. But I thought there were only like. Oh no, there are. Yeah. It's based around 10 plagues of Egypt. You know, from Moses and the Bible and things. Blood frog snacks, lice, pestilence, boils, darkness, etc. But I tell you what it reminded me of when I first started it as a. As a man of a similar vintage pets. You'll remember the Internet back in 2002 or whatever reminded me of Salad Fingers. [00:17:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I remember Salad Fingers. Yeah. It does actually. It does kind of remind me that [00:17:33] Speaker A: sort of style of flash are really. [00:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Isn't it? And just equally that sort of mood of. This is just a bit weird. Yeah, it was. You know. So you go on. Evidently your son, you're the son and you're trying to find out about your mother or something and yeah, I. I [00:17:59] Speaker B: believe your death maybe. [00:18:02] Speaker A: Yeah. I wouldn't have batted an eyelid if any of those characters had said, you know, I like spoons, I like the taste of rusty spoons or whatever. Rusty Lake. They must do it. Perhaps it's the same people mind blown. But yeah, it's very much that style. It's very much just that bit weird. And that's me. I'm all in for that. Yeah. As for the puzzles, it. Yeah, it's not quite the level of Lucas Arts. Monkey Island, Indiana Jones Super Monkey Island. It. It more felt. It's felt like it was kind of like multiple sort of like those escape the room games where essentially you do just click on a lot of things. But then there were just a lot of logic puzzles. And I enjoyed that aspect. More of it, like working out, ah, this is how you solve the puzzle. Rather than what weird thing have I got to combine to give to someone to unlock something that it felt like there was logic behind. Yeah, most of it, yeah. [00:19:18] Speaker B: No, I think I. I can't really disagree with it, really, because you're right. There was like a kind of logic to solving the puzzles to give something to someone. Some of it was a bit weird and like. Some of it was a bit weird. Like I remember this one part. Yeah, it was. There was one point where I'm pretty sure I hatched an egg and this weird gigantic mantasy thing was going around eating stuff. [00:19:45] Speaker A: That was that. That was like the eighth Plague or something. Yeah, that was a bit like. Didn't like as much. I didn't know really what was going on. It was quite misty, wasn't it? And I was just like clicking on shadows, trying to get them big and things. I'm like, is this what I'm supposed to be doing? Yeah, there was definitely one puzzle. I like how you sort of just went back and you were in the same place each time. You're like, oh, well, I need to look here, I need to look there, I need to go in this house, I need to go down the stairs and sort of unlocked an extra bit maybe each time. But yeah, there was one bit. One of the puzzles at the start had a box or something and there was a. I don't know what the puzzle was, but I clicked on a few things and somehow managed to get it open. So I fluked that and I still don't know how I managed it, but there were a few bits that got me quite Frustrated as well. It was the constellations and looking through the telescope that was the worst part [00:20:44] Speaker B: of the game for me. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Trying to get the stars to line up with. I was like, oh my God. I, I, I know what I need to do. I just can't physically do it. [00:20:59] Speaker B: That was the worst part of the game. Just that telescope constellation. But yeah, annoying. [00:21:08] Speaker A: But yeah, it's all very weird. You know, the starts off with the grandma just vomiting a worm out of her mouth and then I think later you pull out her. It's not blood, tears, everything. The weird girl. Yeah. All just very bizarre. But still enjoyable. [00:21:33] Speaker B: Yeah, it's really weird. It's like everyone seems a bit off. But then father appears to die at some point, but he clearly doesn't die because his son somehow turns into a fly person and pierces his face with his protruding thing. I've got the name of. Not a penis. [00:22:00] Speaker A: It's not a penis. He protrudes. Pierces with his. Not a penis. Yeah, like snout sucker. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. How many probuscussles I think it's called. [00:22:11] Speaker A: Sure, yeah. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Something, Something like that. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I'd forgotten about that. Yeah. [00:22:17] Speaker B: There's some really weird. It's like some of it is like weird and some of it is like really weird. It's quite interesting. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Like for all the, the people who are listening to this and are going to go out. I don't spoil it a bit too much, but it's also, it's, it's a bit Wicker man as well, isn't it? [00:22:39] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It is, yeah. [00:22:41] Speaker A: It's, it's isolated island things are weird. Yeah. It had. How many achievements did you end up getting pets? It was a weird achievement system in that I feel I got achievements just from doing things, solving puzzles that I don't think I did in any special way. And yet there were still many that I haven't got and I'm not entirely sure how I could get them because I feel I clicked on everything. Oh. In fact, no going. Just looking and seeing one. There is one. I managed to get a fish under the ice at some point and I got that one. Yeah, it was just there. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:28] Speaker A: No idea. [00:23:29] Speaker B: There was, there was. [00:23:31] Speaker A: Oh, and twiddling with the man's nipples. Touch the nipple. Yeah. [00:23:34] Speaker B: I don't think, I don't think I got that one. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Come on, you must have, you must have been enticed. [00:23:40] Speaker B: I might have got it. I, I just don't remember it. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So you, you can obviously go back and replay it. This is got A walk through now, have I unlocked the walkthrough? Because that would be weird. Yeah. Who knows? But there's, you know, a tiny bit of replayability with achievements. [00:24:04] Speaker B: With the achievements. Yeah. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Because it's not massively important. Clicks. You've sort of solved them, I suppose. You know, the replayability as you go back 20 years later and see what you remember. [00:24:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, this game is kind of like the. When you finish the game. I don't know where the. I was going there. When you finish the game, it literally says, why not go back and see how many achievements again? How many do you. How see how many achievements you can get. How many have you got? That kind of thing. I. I just. Look, I had 25 out of 50. I had half the achievements. Literally half. I don't need the coat. It tells me. It told me. It says 25 out of 50. [00:24:48] Speaker A: I've got 29, I think, for my quick count. So there you go. Better than you. But yeah, I'm kind of not sure if it feels like I could go back and play it, but again, I'd just be clicking all over the place again. [00:25:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:08] Speaker A: That's not the game then, is it? [00:25:10] Speaker B: If you're just thinking it is. Point and click. So it is. [00:25:14] Speaker A: It is. But we're just literally clicking everywhere, trying to. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:25:19] Speaker A: Segment of screen. That does something. [00:25:21] Speaker B: No, I get you. One thing I'll say though is there were some chapters. I think I finished with like quite a few items in my inventory left over. So I'm like, oh, what was. Wonder what I was supposed to have done with them. Like even the final chapter, I think I finished with an arrow on an apple and I was like, what was they supposed to be used for? Not an apple, something else. You used the apple. I think it was the paintbrush. Paintbrush and the arrow. I used the arrow or I picked it back up and I assumed maybe there's something else you could use it for. Maybe you can make the guy aim even further away or something. But I didn't try. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but you must have used the arrow to hit the apple. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. I did that bit. But I wonder if, like collecting arrow again, something else. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Did you not use the paintbrush at all? [00:26:12] Speaker B: I did use the paintbrush. You have to use it to get one of the. One of the things. A candle. [00:26:22] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah. But then I think at 1.1, the level's over. You have a sword or something. I just feel like I'm gonna walk around just clicking on every Tree see if I could do something. Some of the puzzles are, were really really good. I really enjoyed kind of like solving them. I particularly liked the one with the snow globe. [00:26:53] Speaker B: That was fun. [00:26:55] Speaker A: When I worked out what that did, I was like ah. Suddenly now I need to go everywhere else and try and do that because yeah I thought I was like where do I get this third like jewel or whatever from? [00:27:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:08] Speaker A: But then yeah, when you work out what you're doing, that's what I like about point and click. A sense of achievement. You know I've solved this puzzle, this unlocks. They're almost like Metroidvanias in a way. Now I know what this does. Now I can unlock this. Now I can go there. Now I can use this on everything else. Bam bam bam. Mish Bash Wash. So yeah it, it wasn't too long. I completed it in two sittings I think through five of the plagues. Then another three, two or whatever. So yeah it was good. Didn't that stay its welcome. Not too expensive. I'd be very happy I think to go and play some of the others. Whatever they've got Rusty Lake Hotel rustic roots. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I wonder if the same kind of games [00:28:06] Speaker A: I imagine so it'd be weird for them not to be. [00:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I, well maybe. Possibly. Who knows maybe, maybe Rusty Lake hotels [00:28:15] Speaker A: like Hotel Mario Hotel is 66 off on steam now I can buy it for 67 pence. Oh you go oh my grab. [00:28:23] Speaker B: I know. [00:28:25] Speaker A: I feel like perhaps I should have waited. Does that mean Rusty Lake? Oh awesome. Rusty. Rusty Lake paradise was on on offer. Is on offer now. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Oh God damn it. [00:28:37] Speaker A: Always the way you steam. [00:28:43] Speaker B: But yeah I, I enjoyed it. It was rather fun. I think what I liked about it the most was just how weirder is. [00:28:53] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah it's, it's like I said, very much the salad fingers style. It is a rusty like 11th anniversary. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah well I didn't realize, I didn't realize that. I didn't realize that the game is 11 years old. [00:29:11] Speaker A: I don't think this one is. [00:29:12] Speaker B: Ah just the series. Yeah right. That's okay, that's okay. That or play 11 year old game. I don't mind actually like when I decided on doing this podcast I thought [00:29:24] Speaker A: sometimes 6% off now 2/3 off heads. I could have bought it today and saved myself £2 64. [00:29:32] Speaker B: Yeah but you wouldn't have got it finished by tonight because you would have been working and stuff. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Well there we go. And anyone who's listening to this now all you hundreds go and buy them All. Well, actually there's many more. Rusty Lake Hotel. And then there's other ones that aren't Rusty Lake, but I can see there's one called the Cube Escape which has the Cube image. That's all throughout Last Lake Paradise. And there's the Past within that's got the Weird Addoey Boy and the Cube. So I guess to some extent they're linked a lot. [00:30:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I'll have to have a look. I'll have to have a looks. [00:30:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Point clicks. There's many, many point and clicks I've still got to play. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Same you. [00:30:16] Speaker A: These ones are nice and quick and get through to play more. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah, this is. This is enjoyable and I would recommend you give it a try. [00:30:29] Speaker A: It's pretty good. Pretty good. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Like I said, I like. I like the weirdness of Bora. [00:30:36] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, well, we're all a bit weird, aren't we? Petit very. [00:30:59] Speaker B: Anyway, I was just wondering, as you said, you've been playing your 3Ds and your Wii U, is there any. Anything been enjoying on them? [00:31:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So one of my problems is I can't stick with a game and see it through to completion. Apart from Rusty Lake Paradise. Sure. I need this, I need a podcast. I need something to tell me why you gotta play this. [00:31:26] Speaker B: You gotta finish it. [00:31:27] Speaker A: Boom. Done. So, yeah, on the Wii U, I have been playing Wind Waker hd. I don't think I ever played it first time around when I actually bought it and played through to the end, I must have been swamped by the huge quantity of Wii U games and not got round to it. So, yeah, giving that a go. [00:31:58] Speaker B: To be fair, while there wasn't a huge quantity of Wii U games, the quality was quite high. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Well, indeed, indeed. They all came back out on the switch again. So yeah, I was. I've been careful. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Wound Waker hd. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Then I. Well, then I. Well actually there's quite a few I haven't played. Then I dropped it for a while and I've just picked it back up again today. So we'll pursue that through to the end and then the 3Ds. Yeah. One of my things was I suddenly decided, why don't I play some of the Pokemon games? So I was playing and I then sort of thought, oh, you know what I want to do? I now want to acquire all the Pokemon games. Well, I'm fortunately trying to stop myself from doing it because that's very expensive. So I've been playing Ultra Sun a bit. [00:32:55] Speaker B: Okay. [00:32:55] Speaker A: And got quite far on that, you know. It's a ds, so I acquired it, didn't need to spend money on it and you know, it was okay. And I've been playing it and I sort of was trying to catch every single Pokemon I encountered. So I haven't really got that far. You know, I don't know that I'm massively into Pokemon games, so I don't know why I'm forcing myself to play it. I know you've played them all, haven't you? Or you certainly played all of them all. I didn't get any for the switch, so I was quite surprised in Pokemon Ultra Moon when I found out I could ride a Pokemon. I'm like, oh, is that where that starts? [00:33:35] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. I've. I've played. I've got Ultra sun and I've got Moon. I've been playing Moon. I haven't finished Moon, but after I finished Moon, I want to play Ultra sun. But also I never finished. I. I've every. I've played every mainline Pokemon game apart from Ultra sun and black and white 2 and black and white 2. [00:33:58] Speaker A: I would like to play because, yeah, I had. I think. And I got X and I think I got Omega Ruby and I played that after playing X. And people, even though I think people now say, you know, it's really good, I just couldn't get on with it. I think what annoyed me was the separation of Pokemon Pokey center again. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Back to two places. Yeah. Actually on the 3Ds I had been playing Pokemon Yellow. I thought, you know what? I'm gonna play that through to the end. So I was enjoying that. But oh my God, it's just so much of a hassle trying to manage your Pokemon, your six Pokemon around in the box and go back to the Pokemon center and take them out and swap around all your max, like 10 items you're allowed to hold or whatever. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:34:57] Speaker A: Something that modern games certainly solved. [00:35:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's sort of. That's the one good thing about like the modern games are opinion are not amazing. They still enjoyable games and they're pretty good. The older games, while I prefer them generally, the quality of life improvements from like AX not needing to access PC so you can just switch your port one in and out on. On when you go in while is great. I do think it's a bit overboard because it's like I just switch my port mod every fight, but I don't know why you would. But the quality of life improvements in Pokemon are beneficial. Exp share is good compared to what it Used to be like I think in Gen 2 used to be a held item which owns. So you could only shape xp with one other pokemon or gen gen 2 or gen 3. I can't remember exactly which gen I'm [00:35:51] Speaker A: old [00:35:53] Speaker B: but XP shares is one thing where I was like you should be able to turn it off if you want to. Which they stopped doing in Gen 8, I think something I can't remember. Yeah. [00:36:05] Speaker A: On all the time I got it really early. [00:36:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Well from Sword and Shield I think it's like you have to have it on whether you wanted to or not. But generally speaking, I think Pokemons are good games. I just think that there's not enough ambition there anymore. And I think that's simply because I, I, I. A lot of people I think that's one issue is they don't need to. But I think another issue is and [00:36:34] Speaker A: leaf green on I did buy Fire Red. [00:36:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:36:37] Speaker A: Part of the problem. [00:36:38] Speaker B: I am part of the problem. But like I said, I think one issue is obviously as we said, they don't really need to. But I think another big issue is when it comes to the Porkmon series of games is they are honest strict schedule of when they have to get the games out by so that the anime and the manga and the cards and blah blah blah and everything the toys all have to come out at the right time at the same time more or less or around the same time. Yeah. So I think that's the biggest issue is is is that and. And they need to put more budget into her as well. But like as we know it's gonna sell fucking whatever they do. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Why else have I been playing? Oh, I. I acquired in another one of my retro once Metroid Zero Mission. That's what it's called, isn't it? [00:37:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Gba. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Yeah, the gba Metroid, which is, you [00:37:43] Speaker A: know, the first game in one of my grails. For some reason I didn't pick it up back in the day when it was out. I don't, I don't remember it coming out or knowing about it. I must have be. I was at uni. I was drunk. Yes. Okay. And because I picked up like all the Zeldas and things. But yeah, the Metroids. Because I got Fusion and I really love that. So yeah, I don't know if it came up later in the GBA's life [00:38:13] Speaker B: cycle or I'm not sure when it came up it was after Fusion. I know that. That's all I remember. [00:38:19] Speaker A: So I picked up a box Copy of that and blasted through that. It's a. It's a great game. You know, I love the gba. Metroids. I love the gba. So [00:38:33] Speaker B: far into it. [00:38:34] Speaker A: Are you zero mission? Oh, I finished it. I blasted through it. [00:38:40] Speaker B: You know, how do you think it is in comparison to Fusion and Super Metroid? [00:38:50] Speaker A: I. I suppose I can compare those better. You know, it's. I always struggle when people ask me to compare like the games like the Zeldas, you know, I've played them all, Bar Tears, the Kingdom. But you know, when people ask you to rank, it's like, oh, well, you know, I haven't played this one for 15 years. I can't. I don't have time to go through them all. [00:39:13] Speaker B: No, you have to be one after. [00:39:17] Speaker A: Well, I. Fusion was my first, so I would always love Fusion and I think it's great. And I played through that not long ago and I regularly still go back to that and give it a blast through, you know, I know it's less freeform and more linear and directed, but at least that keeps me from getting lost. And again, zero emission, the same sort of tells you where to go, but there is a bit of chance to go around and do other things. I'm not a huge fan of the zero suit end bit. It's all a bit runny away and then it's trying to get the, you know, tension from Fusion in and. Super Metro is a great game. It just annoys me. The. It could do with some quality of life upgrades, but not too many, you know, I would like to be able to switch between like the grapple and the vision thing and sort of maybe auto. I. I'd like more buttons and more options. [00:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I get you to do things [00:40:35] Speaker A: to seek Metroid and I guess I suppose there's Dread as well. But yeah, I, I love the pixel art of them. Metroids. [00:40:44] Speaker B: Yeah, Metroid is great series. [00:40:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So out of the 2D ones I probably put. I mean there's very little. I put Fusion first, Super and Zero on a par in second. Well, again, this is going back to Dread. I haven't played that more recently enough. It's. It's. It's different, you know, it's. It's the Mercury Steams ones now, isn't it? Thomas Returns is at the bottom. [00:41:21] Speaker B: I haven't played Sam's Returns Agory. I got like the special edition and I just left it unopened, so I haven't played it. [00:41:32] Speaker A: Oh, well, there you go, pets. [00:41:35] Speaker B: Now, it wasn't a planned one to keep it unaltoned. I would just bought it. I was playing other stuff. Just haven't got around to it. [00:41:42] Speaker A: In fact I got two special editions. Somehow I think I placed an order and forgot to cancel one. Well I sold one of them and. [00:41:50] Speaker B: But yeah, ten times the amount. Did you be. Did you be a naughty scalper? [00:41:56] Speaker A: Wasn't in scalp. I just happened to acquire one equally. I bought special editions. That's what Wind Waker is that I've been playing. That was a special edition, I think. [00:42:08] Speaker B: Oh nice. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Was Wind Waker not a special edition? I got the Twilight Princess one certainly. Maybe Wind Wake Up. [00:42:14] Speaker B: I'm not sure. [00:42:15] Speaker A: The only thing back then. Yeah 5 emblem special edition for 3ds as well. I've never. I've never played that. It's like flying. I enjoyed Awakening and I played like Echoes of a Lencher or whatever made maybe made that name up and yeah, it's just too much. Too much the too long. That's what I like about Metroid. Last through it in two hours if you could, you know, four hours if you're going slow. But yeah, I can't do it. Games that are 40, 50 hours. [00:42:51] Speaker B: Yeah a game has to really get his hooks into me to make for me to play for a long time. Old world games are kind of like some of them I'll get into but the majority I fall off after a bit because I'm like there's just too much to do and I want to do it all, but I can't do it all because I'm getting bored trying to do it all. [00:43:15] Speaker A: I mean, you know, I love Zeldas, I love Metroids. I haven't finished or got anywhere near into Tears of the kingdom. And Prime 4 is currently sitting, you know, unopened on my shelf. [00:43:34] Speaker B: I started Prime 4 and I think I like an hour or so in and I haven't gone back to it. And it's not because the game is shit or anything because I haven't played much of it. I haven't got an opinion on the game. It's just. Just didn't just like stick with one thing. I think that's what it is. I think it's adhd. Yeah. But no, I think that genuinely that for some reason it just didn't click in that short period of time. I do need to get back to because my plan was to get through it quite quickly. As soon as I got it, I'll play this, record some footage, do a review. It's been how many months as it came. I've come out. I haven't even done it. I played it for an hour and a half. [00:44:17] Speaker A: Maybe it was. It was Christmas December, wasn't it? So, you know, five. Yeah. [00:44:21] Speaker B: Shocking. [00:44:22] Speaker A: Shocking. But yeah, I think that's. I think that's the thing with games, you know, if they don't take you leave them, you can come back to them. I mean, I've done that with games. Both Zeldas and Metroid. Skyward Sword, I didn't get on with first at all initially. I came back to it, it clicked, I loved it. So, yeah, Metroid Dread, I actually didn't get. Didn't get on with that at all. And I love metroid. I love 2D. Metroid. Stacked it off, came back to it suddenly. Oh, no, now I get it. Lasted through it. [00:44:56] Speaker B: It's great. [00:44:57] Speaker A: It's like, yeah, you know, you can drop things and come back to them with new eyes. But yeah, I mean, there's games on PC. Indiana Jones I've been playing. That's. That's one of the more recent games. Recent games that our listeners will be aware of. Our listeners of a certain vintage won't have to come in and tell them again. I've dropped that, I guess because I decided to set up my WWII U&3DS. So I need to go back and finish that off. But again with the angel and Jones, I've been doing all the side stuff. Perhaps I just need to blast through near the main story, be done with it. That was the problem with Tears of the Kingdom. I was getting nowhere doing all the various side quests. Yeah, yeah. [00:45:41] Speaker B: I haven't played Indie. It's a game on my to do list. I've actually, I think I installed it on my Xbox to play it. I haven't got a good enough PC for playing Indy. [00:45:51] Speaker A: Depends how much you like Indian Jones. You know, it's. It's better than the last two films and it really feels like I haven't [00:46:01] Speaker B: seen the last film. But I did not like Crystal Skull. [00:46:04] Speaker A: Well, Crystal Skull was terrible. So, you know, you're in good company there. Yeah. Again, Elden Ring, you know, it's just so huge. I'll keep coming back to it. [00:46:17] Speaker B: And yeah, Elden Ring is a game, one of those open world games for me that did click fortunate. [00:46:24] Speaker A: But again, you know, it's where you are in your life. Pets at a certain time you can get on. Can you get time to dedicate things or perhaps. I need a Steam deck. Why need a Steam deck and a commute to work? That doesn't involve me driving. So I can dedicate some games times to playing games. [00:46:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. One thing that helps when it comes to automobile games for me is co op. [00:46:53] Speaker A: Co op. [00:46:55] Speaker B: Simple reason. If the game is not great and you're playing it with someone, you can have a good laugh while playing it and it kind of alleviates the boredom that you would get from just playing it solo. [00:47:13] Speaker A: That's definitely, you know. Well, it, well, it's, it's the co op, it's the multiplayer. It's one thing I miss from gaming, you know, and I was thinking about that when I played on the Wii U, you know, all the nights we used to play, we had Mario Kart 8 on 1. On Mondays we had. Was it Splatoon Tuesday? It's for Tuesdays or Splatoon Wednesdays. Yeah, didn't we all? [00:47:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was. Monday was Mario Kart, Tuesday was Rocket League, Wednesday was Splatoon, Thursday was Smash Brothers and Friday was Fast Fridays on Mario kart. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Oh yeah. 200cc. And you know, it's also carrying around my 3Ds. I took it out on a couple of times, took it out in Brighton and I took it out to a retro games like convention. I went to. I got a couple of street pass hits. [00:48:13] Speaker B: I remember seeing that on, on the WhatsApp group. I was, I voted no, you will not get any street bassets. And I was wrong. [00:48:21] Speaker A: Managed to get one that was good. You know, it's. It's quirky things that were with Nintendo as well as, you know, the good online community. I know we're all older, we have less time, but doesn't seem like there's many games that we all want to play together online. And you know, I much prefer Nice place. I know we have our retro shooters, Retro Tuesdays now. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah, Retro shooter Tuesdays, which I keep [00:48:46] Speaker A: on forgetting about thinking it's happening on Wednesday. But I'm. I'm at FPS if it's not Golden Eye or Perfect Dark. I, I didn't play them beforehand and I haven't played them after. So yeah, I'm just no good at them. [00:49:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I enjoy jumping in with Retro shooter on Tuesday. It's good fun. I don't always make it. Same with Mario Kart on Monday. And it's crazy to think Mario Kart Monday has been going Since Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U and is still going on Mario Kart World. It's been a pretty consistent. [00:49:27] Speaker A: I suppose. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's been very, very consistent. [00:49:32] Speaker A: When did Mario Kart 8 come out? Like 2014 or something? [00:49:37] Speaker B: I'm gonna say yes. So, you know, and, and obviously Mario Kart Monday didn't start straight away. It was because for a while it was just people would jump on more stays to play Mario Kart 8. And then it became the Mondays. Yeah, and then it became the Mondays after a couple of months, I think six months a year. [00:49:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Because we started off on like Mario Kart 7 doing like. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:01] Speaker A: Could you play online or time trials and things? That was the sort of thing. [00:50:05] Speaker B: Mario Kart 7 was the D. I'm sure we played online, but it might have been the 3.3DS. It's Mario Kart 7. Yeah, yeah. [00:50:14] Speaker A: DS is Marika on the DS. Yeah, yeah. [00:50:19] Speaker B: Because I remember playing online on. On the other. Yeah, yes. Or 3Ds, whichever it was. [00:50:26] Speaker A: And you know, well, maybe it's. It's. It's a problem of getting older as well. You can't just dedicate, you know, entire evenings every weekend, every weekday. [00:50:38] Speaker B: Exactly. The good thing is you don't have to see. Yeah, yeah. The good thing is, is you don't have to be there every week. Be there when you can and, you know, everyone's happy to see you kind of thing. And the good thing is, is generally speaking, when playing multiplayer games, not so much Retro Shooter Tuesday, because some people have a lot more experience in that regard, but a lot of the time, if a newer game comes out or people are playing stuff, a lot of the time you're all getting roughly the same amount of play times. So there's no one who's like 600 hours in the game while you were there, like just learning it, you know, generally speaking, obviously people are going to come in later and have less experience, but generally speaking, everyone's playing it around the same amount of time. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:27] Speaker B: And it's great. [00:51:28] Speaker A: Don't jump on Mar as much. Yeah. Because I. I drop Marik Mondays because I was getting too stressed. I shouldn't get stressed, but it was just annoying me. [00:51:38] Speaker B: There are times where I get so chaos of ATX. Yeah, yeah. I, I prefer Mario Kart 8 to 8 Deluxe. [00:51:49] Speaker A: Well, it is. It's better. Yeah. It's more balanced. [00:51:51] Speaker B: But yeah. Mario Kart World. I'm there for Mario Kart Mondays. Not all the time, so not as consistent as I would like. But I do turn up and I've kind of. While I do lose my temper sometimes with it. I don't know why, but I'm less [00:52:11] Speaker A: think about our Hearts these days, pets don't. [00:52:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it is that. But I think generally speaking when it comes to Mario Kart World, I'm kind even like the week before Mario Kart World came out, I played Mario Kart 8. I'm. I'm less angry at the game. I don't know why. I'm just like happens. You know, there are times when I get frustrated and you, if people have seen my streams, will hear me shouting and screaming at it. But the compared to what I was like on Mario Kart, I think I've calmed a lot. I think. I don't know why. It's not like it's. I've matured more or something. I think it's just I've kind of [00:52:49] Speaker A: like a fine wine. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Given up. Just given up. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And speaking of multiplayer, I did knock up Rocket League. Oh, nice PC and played that for the first time in, you know, years. I used to play that quite a bit on the switch with one of my friends. But yeah, I haven't played that for ages. So went to the old try and get ranked and you know, got abused by some six year olds. So that was fun. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Jesus Christ. [00:53:20] Speaker A: It's like because I've not played it. Yeah, I think that's, that's got, it's got a really high seal in this Rocket League, you know. [00:53:27] Speaker B: It has, yeah. [00:53:29] Speaker A: And then you get people who start doing just the air flying and hitting the ball and you don't even see it. [00:53:35] Speaker B: But yeah, yeah, I haven't played Rocket League for a little bit. I was playing it like on Sundays with Jasm and Jeff Yard, both who have been on the podcast and we were playing it but recently Jeff have been really busy so he hasn't had time. I think he's got like, I think he's in university or something and he's like constantly doing stuff for that And Jasm and me on Sundays have been playing Absalom instead. [00:54:06] Speaker A: So yeah, see him playing. [00:54:09] Speaker B: Which is good fun by the way, if you haven't played it. Player. If you like fighting games, you'll enjoy Beat Maps. Not fighting games. Beat Maps. Side scrolling. Beat Em Ups. [00:54:19] Speaker A: Yeah, no, okay. I like Beating ups. I'm not a huge fan of fighting games. There's too many button combinations to which just invariably ends up in mashing. Yeah, okay, so me but I'll name it Beat Him Up. I love a Beat Em Up. [00:54:32] Speaker B: It's a good game. It's quite interesting. We played fair whack of it now. Good few hours in and we. We still finding New stuff in there and there's still story beats and like little side things popping up and it's. It's rather enjoyable. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Well, that's another thing in the old things that I've been playing because I can't stick to one thing and I've been playing a million things. I started trying to play all the Castlevania games, so I. Oh, nice. On my 3ds, so I played NES Castlevania, got through that and then I got onto Castlevania 2, which was much in the style of everything. That was the second game at that time they all had to be slightly different and a bit weird. So, yeah, I go through that. I think these games too hard these days. I just need to walk through to tell me where to go and I can't be able to get lost. [00:55:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I believe Castlevania 2 had its issues with certain things you. You needed to work out. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Like they were like as well. [00:55:35] Speaker B: Yeah. But I think the thing, when I say you got to work it out, it's like, oh, you have to like crouch in a lake for the wind to come along and take you. And how the fuck you supposed to work that out? And I think a lot of our stuff was in the manual. So if you had the manual and read the manual, you would know these things. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's the thing. Back when I was a child, I would go to buy my game and then on the bus ride or train ride or car ride home, I would read the manual again. [00:56:07] Speaker A: Well, it was half a thing, you know? Yeah. [00:56:08] Speaker B: I'd sniff the manual. I wouldn't sniff them, but I would read the manual. [00:56:13] Speaker A: Having a physical game, I enjoy that. But these days it is literally just a cartoon. Sometimes it's just a download key, isn't it? [00:56:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:56:22] Speaker A: And literally no pamphlets at all, was it? I was going through. Yeah. Like the GBA games had like the Nintendo VIP clubs or whatever, or the ds. [00:56:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Grouchy things. You used to get little bonuses. These days it's just coins that run out or whatever, isn't it? [00:56:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was Stars. Stars. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Yeah, stars. Yeah. I can't remember. [00:56:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I think we should wrap up now, unfortunately, as we've been going for nearly one hour. [00:57:01] Speaker A: Yeah, same conclusion. Things get worse. Things are better in the old days. Point clicks are good. [00:57:11] Speaker B: Yeah, point and clicks are good. Even if they can be very confusing at times. Not so much this one. This one did have a little bit. I was not really sure what to do, but generally speaking, stuck. [00:57:22] Speaker A: And then When I realized what it was, I'm like, oh, yeah, that was. [00:57:26] Speaker B: But yeah, yeah. Whereas from, like, I haven't played it very much. I played like a demo of it on PS1. I think it was like Broken Sword. Everyone was like 90 of players. Couldn't get past some goat because they had no clue what you had to do. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Never really got into the Broken Sword games, but yeah, it was more on the Lucas Arts. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Still many of those. I've still not compared. Too many games, not enough time. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Yeah, agreed there. Yeah. That's gonna be it from us then. The last thing I'll say about Rusty Lake paradise is it's currently on offer. Why not pick it up and give it a try and also maybe try their other games. I enjoyed it. It's very strange. There's no Rusty Spoons, though. [00:58:19] Speaker A: That we found. [00:58:21] Speaker B: That we found. Yeah. It could have been in there as a little homage. Homage to Rusty Spoons. Well, Saddle Fingers. [00:58:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I recommend it. [00:58:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I think that is us. Then. We will be. I'm. I'm hoping to be back in a fortnight, but I can't guarantee it because it's a bigger. It's a much bigger commitment doing this podcast than there is the film podcast. Because the film podcast, you're saying to people, oh, do you mind spending a hour and a half for two hours watching a film? Whereas this, fortunately, this was a fairly short game for me. It was about four hours because I'm terrible and I'd walk off and leave it playing and I'm just terrible. Whereas from the sounds of the Hypes played like two and a half hours or something. So it's much quicker. [00:59:19] Speaker A: Oh no, it probably took longer that. [00:59:20] Speaker B: But yeah, no, no, I just didn't walk off. But yeah. Hopefully we'll be back soon. I would like to thank you, Hypes for taking part. It's always a pleasure. [00:59:32] Speaker A: I would like to thank you, Peds for inviting me and for making me choose a game and actually play it through to the finish. So thank you. [00:59:43] Speaker B: Bye bye everyone, and thanks for tuning in. [00:59:46] Speaker A: Here we go.