Minit with Jeffyard - Episode 27

[00:00:21] Speaker A: Today I am joined by Jeffy again. Again, I don't mean that in a mean way, I'm just saying again, because he's been on you previously. That is it. [00:00:36] Speaker B: We all love Jeff dragged on. [00:00:38] Speaker A: We all love Jeff's yard. [00:00:40] Speaker B: Okay. Hello everybody again. [00:00:44] Speaker A: So before we begin talking about stuff, I would like the game stuff. Just wondering how you're doing. [00:00:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm doing good, thanks. I feel like I've made an enemy out of my niece. She's round yesterday and she's putting pegs on my bicycle. And she came up to me and she went, I fixed your bike. So I saw the pegs and I jokingly went, oh, my bike. Something out of a cartoon, I suppose. But it just made a cry. [00:01:29] Speaker A: You cruel bastard. That's just mean. [00:01:35] Speaker B: I can't reason with her though. I was trying to say I was joking. I was joking. But yeah, I felt like a monster. [00:01:44] Speaker A: You felt like you truly exactly. You've been up to much otherwise. [00:01:53] Speaker B: Side from work down in London next week, doing some ghost or boat ride thing. It's just like a touristy thing, but I think it'd be pretty funny. Yeah. [00:02:15] Speaker A: You made anyone else suffer through 3 hours of film. [00:02:21] Speaker B: You know what I mean? What is Cloud Atlas? And I think I'd give it even stronger praise than I did, to be honest. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Disgusting. To me, it's just like a vaulted mess of bullshit. Like the book sounds more interesting to me than the film was. [00:02:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's quite difficult to transcribe it into film with the amount that it obviously cost and stuff. I did have a film in mind, actually. If I was I've invited back to one of the film podcasts. I've forgotten it now. [00:03:03] Speaker A: I was going to say, let me whip out a net movie data. Basically, they'll enter this film and then we'll discuss it. [00:03:09] Speaker B: Oh, no, it was only going to be like an hour or so, if that. I think it's a fairly short one. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:03:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Lit my mind. [00:03:21] Speaker A: Now, you'll have to remember, we haven't picked a film for the next episode, which will be recording Friday. So I need to get in touch with someone and be like, oh, do you want to watch a film? Do you want to pick a film? [00:03:34] Speaker B: Please make it three and a half hours of convoluted mush. I feel like you've got to have the long ones to make you appreciate the short ones. [00:03:51] Speaker A: I think that you've got to have a big variety of things so that you get all different qualities of film, different lengths. Then you can get good bearings on what you like and dislike and what the fans fans what the one or two people who listen to the podcast think about my opinion and the guest opinion. [00:04:20] Speaker B: It's just an excuse to watch a movie as well. [00:04:22] Speaker A: Yeah. And the good thing is with games, obviously, I was doing this podcast first and I'm more of a gamer than a film watcher. But I just like, hey, I'm going to do a podcast in two weeks. Do you want to play this game? Oh, it's only 100 hours long or even 20 hours. And for some people is a push because obviously various things job, family, playing other games, streaming, whatever that's going on in their life, even if they just can't be asked half the time, it's a lot more of an uptake than just going, I'll stick his film on for hour and a half and it's done. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. And I tell you what I have watched for the first time and many people be like, does Dallas with big guns or whatever. It's the 6th sense. [00:05:13] Speaker A: You only recently watched that? [00:05:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:16] Speaker A: Really? [00:05:18] Speaker B: Yeah. I obviously knew the twist coming up to it. [00:05:26] Speaker A: That kind of spoils it for you though, going into it. Do you enjoy it though? [00:05:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like the 6th Sense would have been one of those films that you would have wanted to watch twice anyway, to catch all the bits that you missed. Because when you know the twist obviously going into it a second time and you can sort of piece everything together. So although it sucks know one of the I mean, I think I got spoiled from The Simpsons, from Jizz in My Pants, the music video for that one. If you know that song that includes a spoiler in it. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Every song contains a spoiler of some sort. [00:06:10] Speaker B: Yeah, too. [00:06:12] Speaker A: I don't know how that works, but it works. It works. I make a shit up and it works. It doesn't work at all. [00:06:19] Speaker B: I don't know. I think it may be Aqua ruined the Barbie movie. Have you seen the Barbie movie? [00:06:28] Speaker A: I have not. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Do you know whether they party in a Barbie movie? [00:06:35] Speaker A: The what? What? [00:06:37] Speaker B: Whether they have a party or have a party. [00:06:40] Speaker A: I have no idea. I just know that the film is meant to be pretty decent, pretty good, and I think it's like the highest grossing film of the year. I actually wanted to watch Barbie, but I just haven't got around to it. [00:06:51] Speaker B: I will watch it fairly. [00:06:54] Speaker A: I don't give a shit. I'll watch kids. I've watched Thomas the tank in cinema. I ain't going to complain about watching Barbie in the cinema. I've seen Paw Patrol in the cinema. [00:07:09] Speaker B: That's just by yourself, right? [00:07:12] Speaker A: I had the kids with me, of course. How dare you. [00:07:21] Speaker B: Then you went down the second time out by yourself just to appreciate it again. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:07:26] Speaker B: You know what? Some kids movies can be pretty I guess what's a word? Like quite deep, I guess. Not necessarily Paw Patrol, but Lego Movie is a good one. And the postman Pat movie as well was sort of like all automation coming in, taking out the postal workers off, taking their jobs and stuff. And you figure maybe it's quite artitted, especially when you consider what's going on with mail companies and all the strikes that are happening there. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I think a lot of family films, especially then, more so than just direct children films like Noddy the Movie or something. Don't know if there is that, but I'm saying there is a lot of family films will have stuff there for entertaining the children. But I think a lot of the time they'll have a deeper meaning behind a lot of things for the adults to kind of latch onto, to get behind. And obviously, I think a lot like I was speaking to, I think it was cumberdanes the other day, I was saying to him that a lot of films can be quite deep in that respect, but also they can kind of help children to deal with certain aspects of life through entertainment. Look at things like Corcora, like Inside Out, lots of films like that. And these films go, generations. Fucking bambi bambi's. Mother gets shot, man. Spoilers. But you know, I'm trying to say these things. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Another film I can't watch now for the first time, if you've never watched. [00:09:32] Speaker A: Bambi, I swear to God, Jeff, I'm. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Going to slap you in the bowl. I have watched Bambi. Yeah. I feel like those kinds of movies are the ones that do stand the test of time, are ones that are a bit more, as you say, across a generational gap, where you've got the bike, fluffy characters that bite colors that the kids will enjoy. Like inside out, for example. I've seen that movie. And you've got the big imaginary friend that dopey bing bong or whatever he's called. And then obviously, teenagers will get something different out of the emotions, what they're possibly going through at the time. And adults will also yeah. [00:10:21] Speaker A: I get what you're saying. Like Turning Red is another one especially well, mainly for everyone can enjoy it. But for girls and stuff, it's going to have a bit more of an impact. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I've not seen that one. But is that to do with menstruation? [00:10:40] Speaker A: It is, yeah. Turning Red. Yeah. They turn into a panda. Oh, you finally had your panda. That's exactly what they say. Fucking hell. I was stupid. [00:11:00] Speaker B: That could be woe of podcast, right? [00:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:12] Speaker B: So like an algarve for the periods. [00:11:16] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah, I think that's the thing. They can touch things that are fairly subtle, but will also resonate with many people. And that's only a good thing at the end of the day. Anyway, I think, Jeff, that we should start talking about games instead of films. [00:11:34] Speaker B: Sorry, guys, for turning this gaming podcast into a filming podcast. [00:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah, film ones next week. So for those who are new to the podcast, we do three segments, sometimes two. The first segment is currently playing, where me and Jeff will discuss games that we are currently playing. Segment. Segment is top news, where we discuss some of the news in the game industry. Or sometimes, Jeff when he comes on every time. Jeff, come on. He's come with a funny little news story to entertain us all. And I believe it's the same this time. And the third is Replay together where we discuss the game that we chose for the episode to play and discuss. [00:12:18] Speaker B: At the probably take a minute. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Probably. I like it. So Jeff, what are you currently playing. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Again? It's quite a big range of games, so I'll go through them and maybe we can focus on one or two. But at the moment, it's boyfriend dungeon. Ratchet Clank. Rift apart. Crash Bandicoot Four still oh my God. [00:12:51] Speaker A: I've been playing Crash Bandicoot Four since like, it came out. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Yeah. What's wrong with you? [00:12:56] Speaker A: I mean, are you enjoying it? [00:13:00] Speaker B: I don't know if you could play a clip in your podcast, but there's one scene where so the last stream, I'm on the penultimate level of getting like all the perfect relics. So going through the levels, getting all the crates without dying, and I got through the level, got all the crates, didn't die. And at the end of each level is like a nitro switch that you press them and it destroys all the nitros in the level. Yeah, because I was so excited to get through a penultimate level, not dying, I went into the end, then I saw the nitro switch. I was like desperately trying to rush back, but it's too late. I was like, oh, for sake, I forgot the Effing nitro switch. Yeah, it's painful, but yeah, Final Fantasy Three as well. The pixel remaster I'm enjoying. [00:13:56] Speaker A: So with those games there, Boyfriend Dungeon, I think you've discussed it before with me briefly. Are you getting on with that? Because I'm sure you were playing that a while ago. Or am I thinking of something not done? Boyfriend Dungeon? I'm thinking of something else, actually. Something Daddy. [00:14:11] Speaker B: Daddy? [00:14:12] Speaker A: Dating dream daddy. That's the one. [00:14:16] Speaker B: Boyfriend dungeon similar to Dream daddy. Really? It's quite a wholesome game. It's like a vogue, like okay. And in between it's like visual novel, typical dating SIM stuff. So, yeah, each of your sort of potential partners are turn into weapons. You go for this dungeon fight, e characters interferes. So it's quite a wholesome story, doesn't take itself too seriously. So, yeah, I'd say it's a pretty cool game if you can pick it up. [00:14:58] Speaker A: What is it like a dungeon crawling kind of top down Isometric hacking slash or. [00:15:07] Speaker B: Hades esque? [00:15:09] Speaker A: I haven't played Hades. [00:15:11] Speaker B: God damn it, Jeff, you know what Hades is and what it entails. [00:15:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I do. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Obviously. I mean, I've not played Hades, but I imagine it's not quite as deep as Hades, but similar. If you played Hades, think of a dating version of that. [00:15:35] Speaker A: How much time have you put into it then? [00:15:40] Speaker B: I've sort of been streaming it. I think I've done maybe eight or nine streams, typically lasting about an hour, so probably eight or 9 hours. I feel like I'm fairly near the end of it. Maybe twelve to 13 hours game. If you're just sort of playing through it casually, right? [00:16:09] Speaker A: You saying it's got like a visual novel side and a dungeon crawling side and the people you date in and stuff you take in as weapons. Does the visual novel stuff kind of correspond with the dungeon crawling aspect? Like, if you do something specific with people in one, will it affect the other in some way? Or is it just like the kind of separate or what. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Saying visual novel maybe that's not the it's like you sort of go on any your dates outside of the dungeons and then that's sort of more like text based in the dungeons. You can collect items and they're like little break rooms where you can have a chat with the people you brought with you, with a weapon that you bought with you, and then you can give them a gift that would influence their relationship. And at the end they'll decide whether they want to be platonic with you, though. [00:17:15] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:17:17] Speaker B: They want to be romantic. [00:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Sounds like a pretty interesting game, really, considering this. Seems like they've taken two different genres there and kind of made them work. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Like which is a good thing. Yeah, it's pretty much just taking two different things, I guess. Sort of how Persona does RPG and a visual novel in between stuff. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I've only really played Persona Four Golden and I never finished it. I got like, the third dungeon or something, and then I stopped playing it because just did, because I'm a twat. [00:18:02] Speaker B: There you go. [00:18:03] Speaker A: What else? They say we're playing Crash Bandicoot Four, which we don't need to talk about. Final Fantasy three remaster, a pixel Remaster and something else. [00:18:15] Speaker B: Ratchet crank rift apart. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Okay, so Ratcheting Crank Rift Apart is the PlayStation Five game. The newest Ratcheting Crank game. [00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Don't be too spoilery, but how you're getting on with that and how does it compare to the previous games? [00:18:33] Speaker B: I think I'm very near the end of it. I'd say compared to previous games, it's very much sort of in the style of, I guess, the later Ratchet games. So the PS Three version. Excuse me. Whereas in particular I'm thinking, like into a Nexus or Ratchet Crank, the 2016 remake, whereas the old school ones sort of had your platforming elements in this hostel has platforming elements, but it's very much focused on the gunplay, I'd say. But, yeah, I'm enjoying it. Seems to be a bit shorter compared to some of the others, but they've done a really good job with the levels, how they've worked. It all the different gadgets. You can get, like, get these hover boots so you can just go gliding about. It's very fast paced, I'd say. Yeah. I'd say it's been a blast to play through. [00:19:52] Speaker A: That's cool. I do want to get Rift Apart, but I'm not really well versed in Ratcheting Clank. So my plan was, ages ago, I set up my PlayStation Three, grabbed all the Ratcheting Clank games, like a year and a half ago or something, maybe longer, and I was like, I'm going to play through all the games, I just haven't got around to doing it. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I've actually been playing, so I've almost editing it down. But I played Ratchet Clank the original, recorded it off the PS Five on the PS Plus thing streaming, and recorded it to put on YouTube. And yeah, because I really dig, like, the Rat Tin crank Two was my favorite, but Ratin Crank One as sort of a special place, because that is very much platforming with guns rather than guns with a platform, and if that makes sense. [00:20:47] Speaker A: Yeah, makes sense. [00:20:50] Speaker B: And then over time, the gameplay sort of shifted. Just had a blast playing it. And it's sort of one of those trips through memory lane where you get to these levels, you hear tunes and it's just like a nostalgiagasm. [00:21:12] Speaker A: I've not really played them much. I did get a PS Two, but I had a GameCube first and most of my time went into that, and most of my time on the PS Two was playing Dragon Ball, Z Buddhukai, one, two, Three, Buddha Kai Tenkichi, or Tenkaichi, I think it's called. Ten kai chi. Yeah, I think so. One of them. And then one, two, three, then. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I like Drama ball day, what can I say? [00:21:43] Speaker B: Fair enough. Because you played the Kakarot game, didn't you? [00:21:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I streamed that. I played through it from beginning to end. But all the DLC is out now, so I do plan to, like, I need to finish Zelda and then play some other games. Because on stream, the only game I've played apart from with Cumberdanes is Zelda in fucking Ages. I was thinking maybe Mondays and Fridays I'll do Zelda, and then other days I'll play something else, otherwise I'm never going to play another game again. [00:22:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I must admit, I've not really caught you about as iPhone with sort of Cumber days in the evening, but yeah. So has it sort of been for yourself? Has it been sort of Zelda and what? Have you been playing with Cumberdanes? [00:22:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty much all it's been, man. Which is a shame, because Zelda has taken up too much my time. Such a big fucking game. I've not pulled loads of hours in, but I put in over 60 hours and I've only done one temple, I think maybe two now. No, I think I've still only done one, so I've still got loads to go and it's like I want to start playing more my streams, like Spiderman is out soon, as in Spiderman Two, and I've got that ready preordered ready to play. I don't want to play that. I'd probably play that off stream because I don't want people coming in going, this happens in Spiderman. Like, fuck off. Because they'll just but then again, the last game I planned on doing now was Last of US Two, and I still haven't played. [00:23:25] Speaker B: Guys who are watching just for a little Jeffyard PED slaw. The first sort of game, or one of the first games that I saw Pedstream, I think the first game that I saw Pedstream was what's it called? The alien game with Jasm. It was on like, Mega Drive toe jaminerl. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:49] Speaker B: And then Jasm and PEDs are sort of streaming Spider Man simultaneously around the same time as each other. And when Jasmine got to the robot arm bit, jasmine was like waving about. [00:24:04] Speaker A: Saying, hello. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Pets got to the robot. How can I make it look like it's wanky? [00:24:16] Speaker A: Jasmine so immature. [00:24:22] Speaker B: My formative memories of Twitch. [00:24:29] Speaker A: It's not my fault. [00:24:33] Speaker B: I'm just wondering what Spiderman Two will bring. [00:24:38] Speaker A: More masturbation. Yeah. [00:24:43] Speaker B: Get your sticky web. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Anything else you've been playing? You ever played through Final Fantasy Three? Previously. Because I know you're playing through the pixel remaster. [00:24:58] Speaker B: I've played the 3D version on DS and on Steam again. Final Fantasy three is one that I do enjoy. Not my favorite, I think, just given how old it is, how limited the story is compared to some of the. [00:25:21] Speaker A: Others, it's also bullshit. I was watching your stream the other day and this person threw a shoe at you. Like, no, watch the shoe. It's the wrong shoe and it blew up. And then they're like, oh, it's a different shoe. And they threw the exact same shoe to you. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's quite a quick game. Obviously, the shoe thing, I imagine at the time would have just been a limitation in graphics. And I don't know why we didn't change up the shoe for a Pixel V Master, but it could have just. [00:25:52] Speaker A: Changed, like one little thing on the top of the shoe. It could have been like gold around like a band on it or something, just to make it different. But that's just lazy. [00:26:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Apart from getting shoes lobbed at you got a good few ideas that sort of see development in later Final Fantasy games. Like, the job system gets a huge uplift in Final Fantasy Five. And yeah, I guess, like, the modes of transports has about four to airships and then in later Final Fantasy games, you sort of get again, they sort of build on the different modes of transport. [00:26:49] Speaker A: Yeah. What's your favorite Final Fantasy of the pixel ones? [00:26:55] Speaker B: I've only played the first three so far. Yeah, I couldn't pick. So Zozo asked me how would I rank for Final Fantasy Games? And I honestly can't do it. I can sort of like, put a group of them in a range. Like, I can say, oh, these are my sort of top ones, and then these are the ones that are still great, but aren't my favorite. But I couldn't say, okay, number one is so and so, number 23456, that sort of stuff. [00:27:39] Speaker A: If I said to you, pick one Final Fantasy game that's your favorite, or grate your balls with a cheese grater, what would you pick? [00:27:50] Speaker B: I mean, I could pick my favorite one, that'll be Final Fantasy Eight band request. [00:27:58] Speaker A: I don't play Final Fantasy eight. Apart from the very beginning of this. [00:28:03] Speaker B: Not everybody's favorite, but I think it's sort of like everybody remembers formative game, the first one, and it's that sort of nostalgia and it takes place in a school. When I was playing it, I was also in, you know, you sort of feel that attachment, I guess, to squall the main character. [00:28:32] Speaker A: Well, the first final Fantasy I finished was final Fantasy Mystic Quest for the Super Nintendo. And therefore it's the best one. [00:28:40] Speaker B: Fair enough. It's got great music, that one. [00:28:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's got cracking music. Would you like to move on to the news? [00:28:51] Speaker B: Yeah. By armies. [00:29:09] Speaker A: You, sir. Yeah, that's not how we do here on your I make noises with my armpit and make me go from see. So the top news this week is brought to you by Jeff Yard. He decided he would like to talk about two different things. One thing I will touch on is myself. The top news is Microsoft through Xbox or just Microsoft? General now own Activision blizzard king. It's all gone through, so give it a few years and lots of this stuff will be on Game Pass. For me, personally, it doesn't affect me because I don't really play Activision Blizzard King games. I think maybe if things end up being exclusive to Xbox completely, it might have an effect on the gaming industry with lack of so many things being exclusive going. Maybe it's going to end up a point with lack of proper competition and shit like that, but who knows? What do you think, Jeff? What do you think? [00:30:27] Speaker B: Be honest. I completely missed this. So we've purchased Activision. Are the games not exclusive to Xbox, though? It's still sort of going on PlayStation. [00:30:42] Speaker A: I believe, at the moment. Call of Duty and stuff has been offered a ten year contract with Sony and Nintendo and whoever else. So Call of Duty will still be but I don't know about other games. So, like, they could bring out a new Crash bandicoot. But it might be exclusive to Xbox, for example, right. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Or Tony orcs exclusives because I believe Sony had a bit of a challenge decision, right. Or tried to attempt to block it. Yeah, I mean, I don't really play too many Activision games. It's not something that I'd be too fussed about personally. And yeah, I'm sure people who are more invested in Activision and in sort of the console wars will probably have more of an opinion on it, but yeah, for myself, not too fussed, I think, in terms of what impact it might have. I'm sure it will have a beneficial impact for Microsoft. I did see in recent weeks that there's a supposedly. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Oh yeah, with the thing they want to buy Nintendo thing. That would be their greatest achievement kind of thing, I think can't have the exact word in, but yeah, I don't. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Think that's going to happen. [00:32:25] Speaker A: I don't think Japan would allow no. [00:32:29] Speaker B: I cannot see any possibility of that. That would be a game changer. No, I don't see any possibility of that happening at all as we do. That email, this is real. [00:32:46] Speaker A: I think it was a real email, but it was like a few it's a few years old, like three or four years old. I think it was 2023 or four years old. And I think quite things have changed since then, but at the same. [00:33:05] Speaker B: But it is a vaccine. Yeah, certainly I'd say it's a successful for Microsoft. It's all gone through. How will it affect the games industry? We'll have to see how they choose to release the games in future. If they sort of keep it Xbox exclusive or Game Pass exclusive and not release it on Sony at all, then I can imagine it'll probably be a loss overall to those PlayStation exclusive users. I think over time it's sort of been that the industry is like, it's not too many games. Okay, I guess Spider Man and Ratchet for PlayStation I can think of for being placed in Station exclusive grant tourismo. [00:34:01] Speaker A: God of war. [00:34:03] Speaker B: Yeah. God of war. [00:34:05] Speaker A: It's quite a lot. I think PlayStation have probably got in the last few years, I would say PlayStation has higher quality exclusives, personal naughty. [00:34:18] Speaker B: Dog games as well. Although even some of those are coming to PC, right? [00:34:22] Speaker A: Yeah. They'll probably release Last of US Part One re remake on PlayStation Six, so they'll be sorted. But the thing is with a lot of the companies, they're making loads of layoffs because they've spent so much money on stuff they make in layoffs, and yet they CEOs and they board members and all that fucking tons of money. It's like, just have a little less and keep your fucking force going to make your fucking games. [00:34:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I sort of see on Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it, twitter. Every few weeks. It seems to be another game companies making layoffs. Like, was it the people behind four guys? [00:35:17] Speaker A: Yes. A lot of them were made redundant, laid off via Epic. [00:35:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I was going to say, I think the same things happened with Bandcamp as well, which was purchased by Epic. Yeah, it's a shame because the game industry, I don't work in it, but it does seem quite close knit, quite a small area to work in. And when you're sort of putting jobs left, right and center, you're just creating huge demand from not very many. [00:36:00] Speaker A: Exactly. And then you hear about like fucking terrible working conditions, the amount of hours people work, and then the people at the top who don't really do that much, getting most of the money and it just sucks ass, man. This problem with capitalism, I guess. What was it you wanted to talk about, man? [00:36:21] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry, I was just going to ask what your view on me Activision purchase was. [00:36:29] Speaker A: I think that for me personally, like I said, it won't make much of a difference. I don't really play the games. I'm unsure on how it will impact the game industry itself because while I don't think that most gamers then play Activision Blazer games a lot, activision with Call of Duty for example, then has a massive reach because there are people who are really into the games who play Call of Duty on a regular basis as well as other games. But then there's other people who don't play a lot of games but still play Call of Duty. So I think will that translate into Xbox sales or will it translate into less people getting into games at all? Because you might have people who will get Call of Duty, play Call of Duty and I think I'll try some other games and then get into the industry. But if they're only buying certain console because their friends have that console, if, say, the PS Six comes out, but it doesn't get Cod, then their friends might not bother buying, like they might buy the game, the console for the exclusives, but they would normally play Cod with their friends there. And that friend who they play with only buys the PlayStation Six to play Cod with the other person who plays many games. They're then not going to buy it. And is that going to be a detriment to gaming as a whole? We can only wait and see. But for ten years I think everything is guaranteed stuff still. Well, at least Cod, I don't know about anything else. [00:38:12] Speaker B: Yeah, ten years. It's not long, but it is long. Time does seem to go flying past nowadays, but there's a lot of room to change. And I'm sure the older you get. [00:38:33] Speaker A: The faster it goes. [00:38:34] Speaker B: Telling you now, right. [00:38:38] Speaker A: I'm still in my thirty s and I feel like fucking one day lasts five minutes. [00:38:44] Speaker B: I just can't believe we're in October. It doesn't feel like twelve months ago, but five minutes ago we were in January 23. [00:38:56] Speaker A: I know, shocking. [00:38:58] Speaker B: I don't know whether you get the same thing, but I keep getting my years mixed up because of the pandemic. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Separate junks as well, where I get everything mixed up. Years, days, months. I'm fucking over. Even get my kids names mixed up. I even sometimes call my dog one of the kids or one of the kids will go bugs. No, not the dog. They'll be like, what? I'm just going insane, man. I blame you. Don't know why, but it's your fault. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Sorry. I do apologize. [00:39:37] Speaker A: So you should. [00:39:40] Speaker B: I've got two news stories for us. So start with the more serious one, which was recently in London. We had EGX, which is a sort of gaming show gaming event in London. I didn't go down there, but people who did go were just Stop oil who ended up throwing paint over some people doing a tekken tournament. Sort of disrupting. I was just sort of lucky trying to think of gaming news. Obviously that big one apparently went over my head of Microsoft Activision. But yeah, I felt this one was quite I guess because perhaps for the international listeners just off oil, it's like a protest movement trying to, I guess, raise awareness of the amount of oil that we're using and sort of using quite disruptive means of getting the point across. [00:41:06] Speaker A: It's all about climate change, for example. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:10] Speaker A: And for those listening who don't believe it, climate change is real. Even a lot of I've I've noticed, like a lot of things, climate change is bullshit have now turned to climate change is real, but it's too late to do anything about it now. And it's like, well, you've had plenty of time to fucking deal with a y of now. [00:41:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think anybody's arguing with a core message and I certainly think there's plenty of time to start looking into renewable energies, start reducing the amount of oil and gas that we are consuming. I'm even looking at my own room now and I'm seeing free laptops, two of which are turned on for this podcast. [00:41:59] Speaker A: Disgusting. [00:41:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Do I need that? Probably not. Definitely not. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Yeah, you do. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I certainly think that we should be making moves to sort of get ourselves away from using the finite resources that we have and working towards renewables. [00:42:35] Speaker A: Something needs to be done. The issue with Just stop oil is not for me personally, but the issue seems to be the way they're going about is kind of heavy handed, like you said yourself. Yeah, but the thing you have there is time is running out for us to do something. If they just do what people have done in the past of just like, I know a little protest outside of Westminster, people don't care enough. The whole point of these protests is to raise awareness and to do the best way in us, in a way is probably by causing some sort of disruption. Like I was saying to you earlier before we started the podcast, you look at, like, the suffragettes and the movement in America with Martin Luther King, Jr. A lot of things was happening there that people would have kind of taken history and changed it in ways, because they're like, yeah, these things, they protested and did what they did. But if I'm pretty sure the suffragettes did a hell of a lot of shit, which is probably worse than what these protesters are doing. But if they didn't do that, women nowadays wouldn't get any of the rights they have compared to because they didn't have them then. So I understand why people are frustrated with these kind of protests, but at the same time, I can completely understand why they're doing it, because this is like leading to an extinction level event. [00:44:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:28] Speaker A: But you look at things, you look at the past protests of things from bigger movements, and a lot of it involved really disruptive things. It's like, I remember someone seeing saying online, like, you wouldn't see the suffragettes lying down on a horse track, and then there's a fucking news article of the suffragettes doing just that back in the day. So they did do things like that. It's just for some reason, we've got this revisionist history where all they did was sit down quietly and say, please let me vote. That isn't what happened. [00:45:02] Speaker B: Yeah, no, absolutely. I think because it is Emily Davidson, the horse race, suffered jet, and if I remember, she jumped in front of a king's horse and I think she got killed, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong on that, but, yeah, certainly. And you go back to say those apart as well, not giving a seat up on the bus, which at the time would have been unthinkable. And she stood her ground, or sat a ground, I guess. And that sort of went towards the black rights movements at the time and all very important stuff, of course. [00:46:00] Speaker A: That's the thing. It's like a lot of people nowadays, they seem to forget what came before when it comes to certain things, and it's like, well, this is kind of disrupting my day, so fuck them. I'd rather the world burn. [00:46:16] Speaker B: And it's like, well, yeah, mild inconvenience over. [00:46:21] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. I can understand when people are worried about emergency vehicles and stuff, but most things I've seen have said they are actually moving out of the way for emergency vehicles when they've blocked roads and stuff. So I can understand why they've done this on a big stage because it's like a big gaming event. So it's another thing to kind of promote the Just Stop oil thing. But also, I think it had links with Barclays and various other things, which also has shades in our shell or something. But, yeah, it's a shame that we're in this position that we're in. I think with the way the UK government are going, with banning protesting and being able to arrest whoever they want, it's just going to make things worse and worse because people are going to have less and less rights and then people keep voting for that because they fucking morons. [00:47:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And ultimately, it's probably not ourselves who have to. And I think that's the sort of main issue is we're just sort of kicking the can further down the road and it's like, oh, it's not us who has to deal with it, it's the next generation of generation after them. Let them sort it out. But, yeah, I think it sort of makes me want sometimes wake up. I think, wouldn't it be cool just to make an invention that can generate energy out of nothing? Not likely for me, because I'm too stupid. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Just connect your bike to your electricity supply and just ride for hours, and then you'll be able to power a white light bulb for a couple of hours. [00:48:12] Speaker B: To be fair. I think people used to say when I was cycling or running and stuff do you know those little Pokemon stuff, like the Tamagotchi things that you got with Pokemon? Art. Golden soul silver. [00:48:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:48:31] Speaker B: Used to give them to me to get the steps in, because I think it worked based on movement. Right. It might be Pokemon go eggs. [00:48:41] Speaker A: Giving me my phone. [00:48:43] Speaker B: The phone for the run. Ever. Well, in light of news and perhaps still on the topic of, I guess, environment, there's a lady who was going through an airport, and she's gone through an airport. She declared that she had a box of giraffe feces giraffe poo in a bag. Because she wanted to make a necklace out of it. [00:49:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Why? She's made one out of moose poo. [00:49:35] Speaker A: Why would you want pooper on your neck? [00:49:43] Speaker B: The reason it's confiscated is because it's poop. Yeah, she did declare the items, but it is because of a disease that could have been contracted. It's poop. Yeah. I was thinking, what would you make a necklace out of? Animal poo. [00:50:07] Speaker A: Animal poo. I was going to say your testicles, because we all know Jeff got six. What poo would use rabbit poo. So then I can walk around and say it's nest quick. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Hey, very good. [00:50:26] Speaker A: I wouldn't think of a poo to put around my neck, I'll be completely honest. Because it's poo. Yeah. It's gross. There's not a particularly sexy looking poo that I look at and go, I want to run on my neck. You know what I mean? [00:50:47] Speaker B: Yeah. It's not something that but you think of the most expensive coffee. [00:50:58] Speaker A: It's like eaten by wherever you just said. And then this pooped out, and then they collect the beans and that's weird, man. [00:51:07] Speaker B: I mean, obviously beans are cleaned up properly, supposedly. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Allegedly. [00:51:14] Speaker B: Allegedly, yeah. To be fair, I did actually have some civic copy. Jittery sent me some. [00:51:24] Speaker A: All right. [00:51:25] Speaker B: Where's mine? [00:51:26] Speaker A: Jerry. Fuck. What the fuck? Where's my poopy? Fucking coffee, Jerry. [00:51:33] Speaker B: So you can make a necklace out of it. [00:51:38] Speaker A: Hope I can drink it. I'll give her a try. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it was good, to be fair. [00:51:45] Speaker A: Was it worth the asking price? I'm not saying that you paid for it. I'm just saying, like, it's really expensive. Would it be worth that? Or do you rather just have a Kinko or ever you drank? [00:51:57] Speaker B: I wouldn't buy it. And that's not to say I don't think she got, like, the proper expensive stuff. I think it's still moderately expensive compared to coffee, but yeah, it's probably not something I'd purchased myself. But yeah, if ever somebody said, I've got some civic coffee, do you want some? I'd say, yeah, fair enough. [00:52:26] Speaker A: I've never tried it, and I probably never will. What animals poop would you put around your neck then? [00:52:33] Speaker B: I'd have bear shit. Like I say, I'm wearing Winnie Rapoo. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. I'd have a chain with a little jar and a nail. I'll back guano, and then if someone annoys me, I'll throw it and chuck a match dumb. And then hopefully it explode. [00:52:54] Speaker B: I wouldn't do that. [00:52:55] Speaker A: It's just cruel. But, you know. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Yeah. One I wouldn't have is I wouldn't make it out of cow shit because that does slop everywhere. [00:53:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Or horse shit. It's kind of like grass with bits of poo on it. Why are we talking about poo so much? Dude? [00:53:17] Speaker B: Sorry. I tried to find a better story, but when I searched for funny stories over your ones, that, like, miserable. Okay. [00:53:28] Speaker A: I prefer the mayor. The mayor one was it Pony? That's a good story. [00:53:36] Speaker B: I'm not trying to beat the pony as a mayor next time. [00:53:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Or some people say the mayor, because the mayor mayor sounds better to me. We're going to move on to let's play together where we talk about a game called called Minute right. [00:54:12] Speaker B: Now, before we go into this, when you first told me that we were going to be playing Minute, I misread it as Mint, and I Googled Mint on stream, and it's like a platformer game where you play as, like, some toothpaste that's hunting around, and it's quite colorful, quite bright. When you gifted me the game, I still read it as Mint, so downloaded it as thinking, okay, this is going to be a nice platformer or a mediocre platformer, because I don't think the views are great. When I played it, I was in for the shock of my life at this game. [00:54:59] Speaker A: Why is that? Is it because it's not a very colorful game and not a platformer? [00:55:05] Speaker B: Yeah, because everything I did resulted in my death. So I think I accidentally pressed circle because I was playing on PlayStation Control, and that kills me. Yeah. I didn't realize there's a timer, because I think that's the sort of gimmick of a game that you got a minute to do whatever you need. So I saw the timer going down. I was like, what's happening there? That went down and then I died. I accidentally hit a spiraling thing and then that killed me. Yeah. I sort of wished I recorded it, to be honest. [00:55:48] Speaker A: Sounds like fun. Yeah, it's what I've played of it so far. I've got a fair way into it, I think, but I'm kind of, like, a little stuck on where to go next because it doesn't really give you a lot of direction. You'll end up doing something and thinking, all right, yeah, I found something. I need something else to do in a lot of time. You've done? That the last thing I did. I came out from breaking a hole in a wall, and now I'm like, now where do I go? And I literally have no idea where to go. But I've been really enjoying it's, like, kind of cool, like the 1 minute loop, the 62nd loop. [00:56:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:23] Speaker A: So it's like it's just really cool with the whole 1 minute loop. You'll kind of do something, collect your sword and what have you. And I literally collected my sword, got to a wallock like some kind of cathy went in there, got told about crabs not a diet crabs, about crabs, and then died. And I was like, okay. And then you start with your sword, and then you have to kill these crabs. And then you get a coffee, and there's, like, little things like that. It's like you'll make some progress in some way and you'll either know how to do it quicker or you can skip that bit entirely because you've done it. And it's kind of like the world, for the most part, saves, but you reset to your save location, which is one of a few houses. And I really like that. It's pretty cool, like, the way it's done. [00:57:22] Speaker B: Yeah. No, it's interesting. Very early on, I found a watering can, and I ended up going around with watering can not realizing places you saw, what the flip am I doing now? And that's another death. I did figure out what to do with a watering can. I found this lost person in a desert or something, and they wanted water, so water on them went back. I think they took me to a boat or something, and then I got lost trying to find the Boatwood. Yeah. [00:58:00] Speaker A: The Boatwood is actually rather easy to find. [00:58:03] Speaker B: Is it? [00:58:03] Speaker A: Yes, relatively easy to find. It's starting house gone north. And it's in that area. [00:58:11] Speaker B: Right. Okay. [00:58:13] Speaker A: Very beginning house. You ended that a completely different way, then, to where you needed to go. Yeah. What do you think of the game visually, then? Because obviously you were expecting this bright, colorful game, and this game is literally black and white. [00:58:29] Speaker B: Yeah. To be honest, I was like, Have I got my own flipping game? And then I went to Google it before this podcast because I thought maybe there's, like, two mint games. And then I couldn't find the game I played at all. I was like, Pez just gifted me the wrong game. Then I checked the message and I saw that it said Minute. I was like, oh, that makes sense. [00:59:08] Speaker A: You blocker. [00:59:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it did remind me of The Legend of Zelda and Game Boy a little bit. [00:59:17] Speaker A: Yeah. I'd say it's kind of similar gameplay wise. It's kind of like a simplified version of Zelda, which is more puzzle based than combat. And obviously Zelda has, like, various bits, but so far I've only had to stab a couple of snakes. Never move. And a. [00:59:44] Speaker B: Power think. I've not even touched a bull, I just ran away from that. But, yeah, it's very much like trial and ever what you need to do. [00:59:58] Speaker A: It's also like a thing where you need to remember things you've done, then go back and grab other things and change things up. Like I said, it's really interesting, the whole trying to remember little bits you've done and then see how they can help you with another section that you've got to. Because, like I said, you don't have to redo everything you do because you literally get 60 seconds and then you drop dead. Except for 60 seconds of not literally a second. [01:00:35] Speaker B: I don't know whether you found amazing, like, the temple. I couldn't complete any other temple. And then I found out that you could buy fast shoes, but I didn't have the coins for that because I was getting really close to it. I was, like, trying this maze out, like, probably tens of times. I'm so close to the end. But yeah, I think with those fascis, I might be able to make it. [01:01:01] Speaker A: Yeah, you only need seven coins, but so far I found four or five. I haven't found the last two or three. It's a pain in the ass getting those coins, because you only get one at a time. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I'm the same. I've probably got maybe four or five. It's a fun little game. It's one of those things that because I know when we did ABSU last time, I sort of record that gameplay. Yeah. I sort of regret regretted not recording the initial reactions when I had no fucking clue what was going on. And it's like, okay, because you start in the house, I thought, okay, maybe I'd go out of here. And this is going because even the character sort of looked like the toothpaste thing that you played as a mint. I was like, okay, maybe go out here. And this is when it turns into a platform. And then it didn't. And then I pressed B or whatever when I got the sword to kind of stab him. And that killed me. Yeah. [01:02:12] Speaker A: Basically, the only controls in this game is up, down, left, right to move just the directional controls. Then A, or cross or X or whatever you want to call it. If you're playing on a pad. I don't know about PC controls, I'm on Twitter. And that will attack or use your watering can or whatever you have in your hand. Then the other button, apart from pausing, is the B button, which just means you reset, so you just drop dead. So, like one section, I climbed up a lighthouse, up to the top of the lighthouse, and then I thought, I wonder if I press B if I'll just drop down, forgetting what happens. And as I was climbing down, I just dropped dead. [01:02:55] Speaker B: To be fair, you might think the drop dead button is useless. I'm thinking, I want to be the guy. If you press Q, then it killed you and sent you back to a checkpoint. But it is pretty handy if you've gone the wrong way or you're not making any progress and you say, you got 20 seconds left on the clock, and you just think, okay, let's just do a quick restart. So it is a useful feature. [01:03:21] Speaker A: I've even used it for, oh, I'm walking around this way. Oh, I'm going past one of the houses. Walk in the house, press B, die checkpoint there, and then carry on going. Just so you've got an extra, like, 2030, 40 seconds. It makes sense using it to your advantage because it is literally 60 seconds and you done. But obviously the game visually, obviously, when I was just talking about it now, it's not being colorful nice, kind of like an old I can't remember what bit they call it, but it's like black and white. Like really old. Like one bit games. I think they called one bit games. So it's like, really minimalistic. But obviously the sprites are nice enough that the world is pretty cool. It's just obviously, it's literally just black and white, which I have no issues with. I have no problem playing black and white games. [01:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it added to its char, to be honest. [01:04:27] Speaker A: Like, another game I played that was black and white that was really good, was Pokemon black and white? No, gatto roboto. [01:04:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, black and white. [01:04:38] Speaker A: I think that's the same kind of one Bit, or whatever they call her. [01:04:41] Speaker B: That a metropania type game. [01:04:44] Speaker A: It is, yeah, it is. And you're a cat goes in a robot suit and it's like it is. I think it was on Game Pass, and I was like, oh, I'll give it a bash. I played it. I enjoyed it. Yay. And that's the good thing about Game Pass and PS Plus, is I wouldn't normally buy this game, but I'll give it a try and then you play it and you enjoy it, and then you're like, Yay. Or you could do what I did and get asked to review Golem. And then you buy it and you're like, Why did I say yes to this? God damn you, cricket. [01:05:23] Speaker B: Oh, did you actually purchase it because of cricket? [01:05:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Every night before bed, I'll jump on it for an hour because I can't play it for long because I don't like it. [01:05:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's funny because I heard, like, the people behind it were proper into the Tolkien stuff and got all the bits of Law down, but the game just I don't know. I mean, you never want to do people disservice. I'm sure we worked hard on it, but yeah, it turned out great, right? Exactly. [01:06:01] Speaker A: It's not great, to be honest. That's the thing. It's like, I can't do that stuff myself, so credit to the people who can do it. But at the same time I can't criticize things. [01:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that you don't want to be saying something's good and for the sake of not hurting people's feelings. [01:06:30] Speaker A: Exactly. Like, I don't ever if anyone says to me, or, what do you think of Jeff Yard? I just tell him straight he's a butt face. Because I don't want to just be nice just to know how you're feeling. So I'll just tell him straight Jeff's a butt face. [01:06:43] Speaker B: I complimented you and I said that we had a good game on Rocket League about three or four years ago. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Three or four years ago. You give me a compliment, guys. [01:06:58] Speaker B: No, I get that. I think it's just a bit of a shame, really, that the game didn't turn out quite as good. But I mean, what can you do once you've started getting down there so far into development without complete overhaul? [01:07:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it didn't help with the fact they blocked so many things behind paid DLC and what have you. I think it screwed the company completely. Like, I think they went bankrupt or something. Like. [01:07:35] Speaker B: Thinking because I think they only developed one certain type of game previously. Not one game, but like one typical type of game. And then yeah, went on to do Gollum, which could have been a big break. And they fucked. [01:08:00] Speaker A: With Minute. As we've been going for longer than I planned, I would like no problem. I don't mind going for longer if we need to. Nothing wrong with going a bit longer. [01:08:12] Speaker B: I don't know whether we needed to because 15 minutes of talking about films and ten minutes of talking about giraffe shit. [01:08:22] Speaker A: Hey, I'm the kind of guy who just lets things flow as much as they can to an extent, because I don't want to be told about fucking giraffe shit for 20 fucking years. But with Minute, do you think going to crack on with the game? [01:08:39] Speaker B: I probably play it in bits and pieces. It's a fairly short game. I think maybe if I get some time in the next week, I'll probably go on for another hour or so. [01:08:56] Speaker A: Yeah. According to how long to beat, it should take roughly 1.5, aka one and a half hours to finish the game. For a completion where you want all the collectibles, it's around 3 hours. But I always find how long to beat is like way faster than I ever finish anything. By about fucking 10 hours. I probably played it for longer than I want to have a day. And I ain't finished. And I have not got all the every collectible along the way. [01:09:26] Speaker B: No, absolutely. I think I played for maybe about an hour or so. I know I spent a lot of time just doing amazed things. But yeah, I always find like, probably double that time for you find the oasis. I've not. [01:09:52] Speaker A: I found the oasis. And I don't mean the soft drink. Not that either. But, yeah, I think, as we've been going for an hour and ten minutes, that we should wrap up here. From what you've played a minute, you say you will continue to play it. Would you recommend it to people? I personally would, because I think it's fucking cool. Very interesting. And it's one of the few games I've played as a unique little timer that doesn't feel like it's, like, great in any way. Like some things you might think, oh, you only go a certain distance and then you will die, and then you have to redo it. It's not that you do die and you do reset a little, but a lot of things in the world stay the same. So I think that little USP is pretty cool. What about you? [01:10:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a cool little gimmick and I imagine it's relatively cheap as well, so I'd say get go for it. It seems to be well received. I had fun with it. It's a neat little gimmick, if you like. Sort of zelda as well, but fast paced. Yeah. Think you'll have a blast with it. [01:11:11] Speaker A: That is going to be us. What was you going to say, man? Sorry. [01:11:16] Speaker B: Oh, sorry. I was saying, if not, you can only play it for a minute or so. [01:11:21] Speaker A: Terrible. Jeff I think that is going to be us, though. So we will wrap it up here. Jeff, would you like to plug anything. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Forward? Slash pets. [01:11:38] Speaker A: Damn it. Every fucking time. [01:11:42] Speaker B: Jeff Yard. If anybody in the UK, in England and Wales suffers bedbug bites at a hotel, give me a call, because I'm taking on bedbug cases at work. I plugged my work. [01:12:03] Speaker A: I thought was happening mainly in France than the UK. Is it happening a lot in the UK now? [01:12:09] Speaker B: Yeah, they've come over to London and spread. So, yeah, if you're having a hotel in Wales, or just any personal injury that you might have me a message. [01:12:25] Speaker A: Jeff, I was masturbating and the window fell on my penis. What do I do? How much money can you get? Me landlord didn't put the windows in properly. [01:12:39] Speaker B: It depends on what injuries you suffered. [01:12:44] Speaker A: Didn't cut her off like it just landed on her window. [01:12:49] Speaker B: Opportunity, eh? Work it out. I'll have to see images. [01:13:00] Speaker A: I'll send them over now. Thank you, Jeff, for taking part. Thank you for everyone who's listened. We will be back in a fortnight with another game, me and someone else. I'll be back in a week with me and whoever else talking about film on Pugsday crew reviews. Don't forget to check out Slash. Jeffyard. That's J-E-F-Y-A-R-D Jeffyard. And, yeah, you'll get to see his streams, not his penis. Have a good one. Bye, face.