Arcade Paradise with Ashiwaa - Episode 36

[00:00:16] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to the 36th episode of Peds Game Shack. Today we have returning guest Ashua. How are you doing, Ashua? [00:00:25] Speaker B: How doing? All right. And how's yourself, bud? [00:00:27] Speaker A: I am well. I am well. Uh, it's been ages since we last caught up. Two days. [00:00:36] Speaker B: I think we've had quite a few little nightmares. Yeah. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it's been. It's been a while since the last time you're on this podcast. But for those who are interested, which should be everyone listening, uh, check out pugsy crew reveals where me and Asma. Asma. Ashua. Asma is a different person. Me and Ash. Ashua. I'm not drunk, I swear. We're talking about Happy Gilmore, which I don't think much. Happy Gilmore was discussed in the end because we were just talking shite in a good way. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Best way, though, isn't it? [00:01:18] Speaker A: Exactly. Talk about stuff, enjoy stuff, talk about the film, you know, that kind of stuff. [00:01:23] Speaker B: It's all good. [00:01:26] Speaker A: But today we're here to talk about games. And for those who are familiar with the podcast, we did have a structure of, you know, different sections, but we kind of, the last few episodes kind of dropped that and just thought we'll go with the flow, we'll see how it goes. And that's how we going today. So first of all, how are you doing? You're doing well. You've been up to match. [00:01:59] Speaker B: I've been, you know, being a degenerate this week. I'm off the. So it's been a fun week for me, you know, like 1012 hours gaming, you know, like back in the day. Well, so I've just been in Persona free, basically, which is really fun, to be fair, and a little bit of a hot take. And I will not talk about this game, but I personally think it's better than five at the minute, which is like the golden. [00:02:24] Speaker A: But yeah, the only Persona game I've played is Persona for golden for the Vita, the PlayStation Vita, and I really enjoyed it. But me and rpg's have this kind of. I love the games, but they go on too long and I end up dropping them for something else. [00:02:45] Speaker B: And that was a lot of long. [00:02:46] Speaker A: Games with me, to be honest. [00:02:47] Speaker B: I agree with you on that. This is why I wait for like, I'm off for the week till I can immerse myself properly. I can't do an rpg where I'm playing 2 hours at a time. I just can't get into it. That's why I prefer like action games, rhythm games, where it's like quick fast paced, like it's all segmented, you know, so if you've only got a little time to play you feel like you've done something. Whereas in an rpg, cool. I've done about four quests and now it's time for bedd grand. What 2%? Awesome. But I do think our have got a problem of being far too long. Uh, yeah I think, I think the length, and I'm saying the ideal length which is pushing it, I think the ideal length is around 50 60 hours. I think that's where most rpg should sit at and if you want a really long one it'd be 80. But once you start getting into the hundred hour mark it just gets, gets a bit much. Yeah it's like come on, can we wrap this up a little bit now? Like I'm, you know I've got other stuff to play but I'm too far into it now that I can't walk away. So it's like well I need to see the end now and the developer's. [00:03:54] Speaker A: Like ha ha ha, fuck you and your time, I don't care, I want your money. The good thing is you are, if it's really fun and a really good rpg you are getting your money's worth. The issue there is if you're me and have the attention span of a gnat then it becomes a problem. [00:04:15] Speaker B: I am the same way. I like to play the new stuff if I can not like the new triple A stuff, but I've got so many games I like to bounce between. I just get in the mood for certain games, you know, I can't play a certain genre just whenever I've got to be in the mood for certain things. If it's short, snappy and faster, like it's a little game, it's in little, you know, bite sized bits. Keeps my attention. I'm quite happy. This why I always make the joke of I'm like a child, you flash some lights at me, dangle some keys and you know, make some loud noises. You've got my attention, you know, that's where some games where they're slower, I'm just like, and I'll keep, I'll looking around at stuff and I'm like yeah, this has not got my attention, it trusts me. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Well speaking of slower paced games, the game we're going to be talking about mainly is arcade paradise and we've briefly talked about it. Not very much off the podcast but me and you seem to quite differ on opinion in this. So. So how you, how have you got on with her. [00:05:25] Speaker B: I played an hour and a bit, so I'm not going to pretend I played more than that because it did feel like a job. I can see the potential. Some of the minigames were fun, but it's just when I was doing other people's laundry, I was like, man, like maybe it's just a slow bend, but you know, the potential sec I thought obviously I was looking at getting the game myself because I thought it was a very different game, what it actually was, where it's basically a first person arcade management sim. Essentially. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it kind of is, but you also have the laundry side of things. As you progressed, you can do less laundry because you're earning more money from the arcades. So it's like, it's at the point where I own the Xbox series version that I've been playing. I make it enough money from the arcade. I only ever do laundry if it's one of the tasks to do. Now I just don't bother because I'd rather play on the arcade stuff and just doing money that way. Sometimes I'll do a little bit of laundry if I'm like, oh, I'll do a little bit of laundry now and again just because of the thing. I mean. But most of the time I'm just like, yeah, fuck the laundry. Because you don't earn a lot of money from the laundry. It earns a decent wage in the first, like up until you get, I would say about seven arcade machines. After that it's kind of like, eh. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Yeah, what's the point? I know it as well, that the whole point is a whole story. You inherit the laundry or you work at the laundry feed and the arcade. Like the side hustle. Yeah, but it just seems like a mismatch anyway. Without that, like leading, you're like, why is there laundry and an arcade and nobody does their own laundry? They just leave it for you to do, like what the hell? You're meant to be doing it. I'm not your mum. [00:07:21] Speaker A: Technically you may not be your mum, but you're getting paid. And if you do it good enough, you get $30 per washed. Yes. [00:07:31] Speaker B: How rich is this area? Who's chucking 30 quid at somebody to do a wash for him? [00:07:36] Speaker A: I know you gotta pay for the machine. It's s rank and you get $30. I think a rank is 20, b rank is ten, c rank is five, something like that. Anyway, so the best, the better you do it, the quicker you do it, the more money you earn. But like I said, by the time you're starting to get the arcade up and running, you're earning hundreds from there. From like a couple, like one thing you can get a few hundred from, another thing you get 100 from, another one you get like 60 from. And it all adds up. I've got, on the Xbox version, I've gone, I think I've got like eight arcade machines and a jukebox which you can like select music to play in the background instead of the, you know, in game, certain music in the arcade, then the music in the laundrette part and then I, the music outside, if you put for the jukebox on it just plays whatever track you've selected whenever you're walking around. Which is a shame because it kind of cuts up the music from the arcade machines then. [00:08:41] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just, I said, I did obviously get that far. I encountered a book and I was a bit frustrating as I loaded the stuff into the washing machine, into the dryer, then I picked up basket to load it into the dryer and realizing I had a spare dryer and the game wouldn't let me put it down anywhere. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Oh, that sucks. [00:09:05] Speaker B: So, so I went all day. [00:09:06] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. How much laundry did you do? There's about twelve dryers. [00:09:13] Speaker B: No, I've only got four on mine. When I started I got four washes. Four dryers these 8th. [00:09:22] Speaker A: There's more dryers than there is washers on the side. You start but there's one below and one above. There's like two rows of dryers. And then if you go around the corner, there's some dryers around there as well if you go to the other side. So you uh, you would have had a lot of, lot of space. [00:09:43] Speaker B: I probably missed it then. I was looking because I had the washing machines in the middle and then I had the four at the wall and I thought I got like, got the dryers at the right hand side. Wouldn't let me use those dryers for some weird reason. Yeah, well I guess it's these four. So obviously then obviously didn't add five lots and I basket forgot to get the laundry out the dryer first. I would just lock that, walk out and go over this laundry basket. [00:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I think basically it can be a little fickle and you have to aim correctly at the tumble dryers to get them to. That's the, probably the biggest issue there is. You have to like aim just right or sometimes it doesn't highlight it properly, which didn't happen often, but it can still be irritating if you can't get your lord in the triumph. [00:10:37] Speaker B: I thought the, the kinect for like Princess game fingers. Alright, I hmm, a little bit frustrated when you fail because you got, you start all the way back at the. Start again to go back up again. It's like, right, yeah, I'm beating you. [00:10:53] Speaker A: Yeah, that was the problem. But as I said, the good thing is as you progress, you can spend more time just ignoring washing and not like you can do some laundry but not rush to get it done. It's like beep beep beep beep beep beep. Look, your watch says, oh, you've gotta get some laundry out to dry. And it's like, well no, I'm in the middle of a fucking match, I'm gonna finish it, then I'll get a laundry out. But earlier on you want to get it out as quick as possible just to get as much money as possible. So you can buy more arcade machines. [00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Also them arcade machines can't be emptied for a good while because when you first open them, there's a lot of cash in there. [00:11:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker B: Compared to usually get after. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's insane how much. [00:11:41] Speaker A: I think it starts off quite high. So you can buy your first new arcade machine, I reckon. Because like these, is it three or four to start with? [00:11:56] Speaker B: Four, I think. [00:11:57] Speaker A: And then you buy two more, then you expand the room to add more. You can have a pinball machine, you can have a racer where you sit down and race, but obviously you don't sit down and race. It's kind of like outrun, but with like a weird futuristic car. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Wait, I missed out on pinball. Right? I'm gonna have to put this back on, I think. [00:12:24] Speaker A: And there's a dance match style game. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Right. Well it looks like I'm laundry, doesn't it? Like, you know. [00:12:33] Speaker A: Yeah, that's expensive. I think that's one of the priciest, the dance map game thing. [00:12:39] Speaker B: I'd love one of them in real life. I'd be, I'd look like a fish out water, but still I'd love to give it a go. I get halfway through the song, get a swell and I'll be like, oh, that's enough for me today. [00:12:50] Speaker A: It's another one I had, I was playing, which I was enjoying was a zombat two, which is just running around. It's like a dual stick shooter where you're just walking around and shooting zombies. That's quite fun. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Oh, that's pretty cool. [00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:03] Speaker B: Like a top down like thing. [00:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah. But it's. You actually have to fire on that instead of just letting the game do it for you. Like, it's more like Smash TV in that regard, where you actually have to press a trigger. [00:13:19] Speaker B: I'm liking how we are getting more games like that now. Not to go, like, you know, the top down twin shoot. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. There's nothing wrong with them, and they're enjoyable. I played vampire survivors on the Xbox affair whack. And that was rather enjoyable. I do. I even grabbed all the dlc that was up for. I played it all, but I've got it. [00:13:40] Speaker B: I've actually played it. I just know of it. My mate's addiction to it. He was like, mate, you gotta play this. I'm like, eh, I've got all this stuff to play. Is like, listen, it's addictive. And obviously. Cause I've known him since they were younger and they were like, all right, I'll trust you. And I've just never got around to it, apparently. This, the anime weeb one, isn't there. The holo cure one everyone reckons is better. Even though it's meant to be a meme game. It just turned out well. [00:14:07] Speaker A: Ah, right. You get that sometimes, I know, but, yeah, there's some great variety of games. And the other thing is, is most of the games are based on other games. So the, like. I don't know what the, like, stacking game is based on, but it's just a. It's just like candy crush or something. Really. Then you have Pac man, but it's got, like, a Gta skin, as in, like, Gta one. You have a hawk. The. [00:14:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:14:44] Speaker A: But it's the video game version of a laser hockey, we'll call it. Don't know if that's what it's called, but that's what I'm saying. It fucking is. Then you have. What was the youth. There's another one you start off with as well. I can't remember. [00:15:03] Speaker B: Oh, what's it called? I can picture it back up. [00:15:09] Speaker A: Yeah, well, the thing I upgraded. God, next after was a, like a digging game, which I can't remember what it's like. I wouldn't say boulder dash, but you just got to keep digging down. [00:15:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:15:26] Speaker A: I got that. You dig down, gotta collect gold. And the upgrades, they carry on to the. To, um, the next game. Like, if you leave the game, these upgrades stay. So it's not like a proper arcade game where if you run out money, you fucked. So that's a good thing. After I think I got zomba two. Uh, the car game, uh, pinball machine, which I'm fucking awful. A good thing is you could change the view on here as well. If you press the right button, change the vote so you can get, like, different position on the pinball machine. Because, uh, I don't like the default, though. Um. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Yeah, default view. Like, I thought pinball was standard. [00:16:12] Speaker A: Yeah, but obviously in the game, it's more like a, um. It's more like other games where if you press, like, say, select on some games, it'll change the height of it slightly. So you're looking at it from like a different angle. If you're a taller person or shorter person sort of thing, it doesn't like going close or things like that. It just slightly adjusts the height so it's looking at it at a slightly different angle. But generally speaking, I've had a lot of fun. And like I said, the more you play of it to get money, the more enjoyable it becomes. Because the laundry stuff is like, eh. Then you just get more enjoyable shit. Also, I got the DLC as well. [00:16:52] Speaker B: For her, this DLC there is. [00:16:56] Speaker A: And I got two of the DLC games. They're a $100 each. All the DLC games are a $100 on there. Um, one of them is like a penguin game. It starts off and I can't remember, it's called. It's like penguin push or something. I thought maybe it's like kickle cubicle or something, which is not. So it starts off as soon as you see it. You're like, I know all this is. And it's fucking Mario Brothers. Not Super Mario Brothers, Mario Brothers. You know, the old school one with a power block. It's even got that. The difference is, is when you spawn in a whale, kind of a killer whale, spits you out. It's like that. And then you have to kill seals instead of koopas. [00:17:46] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Yeah. There's another DL DLC game I did down on play, but I cannot for the life of me remember is because for the last few days, I haven't played arcade paradise. I've been playing on my PlayStation five, Arcade Paradise, Vrdehdeme. And I'm not as far into it. [00:18:08] Speaker B: Is it quite immersive then, the VR version? [00:18:11] Speaker A: It is. It's so fucking cool. I was like, oh, in an arcade, it's really cool. And also they have different arcade machines. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Ah. So it's not just. It's not just like a camera change and it's actually a different game. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Yeah. For stars it's. The washing is different. In the normal version of game, you pick up the washing, you put her into the machine with holding a. It does its job. You take it out, put it in the dryer, wait for it to finish, take it out, put it on the collection table. And obviously the faster you do it, the better your grade. When I was playing the VR version, I noticed straight away that the baskets are different shaped. There's three different color baskets which you need to pay attention to for the drying. There's three different types of clothing. One is whites, one is mixed, one is darks. So you got to make sure you change the setting on the washing machine to the right setting for the clothes. Either whites, mixed, dark, uh, and then also you like, you actually grab it and then you press the wash button with your finger. Oh, it's so fun. [00:19:24] Speaker B: It was, someone at that game studio got a fetish, but, you know, for doing laundry, because this has like ten times more in depth. [00:19:32] Speaker A: It is, it is more in depth, but it's actually, it's funnily enough, it's more enjoyable because, like you, you put up, you pick up the basket, you put it down in front of the washing machine. You grip the washing machine open. Then you pick up the clothes into three individual pieces and chuck them in the washing machine. Shut the washing, turn the dial to the right setting and press the wash button. When it dries, you take it out. Same thing, open it, take out the three loads of washing. Go to a dryer, bang it in the dryer. You have to make sure that the color of the basket corresponds with the style of dry, which is like delicate wash, cupboard wash, extra. No, delicate dry, extra dry, and cupboard dry. So you got to make sure they match up there. And then you take that and stick on the thing. That doesn't seem to go by how quick you do it. It just seems to go by how from what I experienced, because I was quite on the ball with gearing stuff done. But it seems to be, if you make sure you follow the instructions correctly, you tend to get an s rank. So you get in the high amount of money to rush back and forth, like in the other game. Also, it's a lot more immersive. Like, I was playing the hockey game, I was like, oh, don't like this angle where I'm just looking. So I kind of like, leaned forward and looked over. So I'd like a more of a bird's eye view of the table instead of like a diagonal view. And it's fucking cool, man. And it's like I was playing the Pac man game, like, looking around the arcade and karen and then looking back at the screen going, yeah, it's fucking. This is fucking cool, man. [00:21:12] Speaker B: It sounds like. It sounds like a good VR. They put some effort into the VR then. [00:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah, a bit like, you know, it's. [00:21:19] Speaker B: Like with some VR games where they just. Oh, yeah, we'll just make you the camera and off you pop. [00:21:23] Speaker A: It's like, yeah, they've changed a few things. Like the rubbish. You fill up the. The trash bag as is. The trash bag? Yeah, they say the trash bag. That's what they call it in the game. I'd say the rubbish bag, but whatever. In the normal game, you just press a at the right time. In this, the wheelie bin is like in a different place. And then the further you stand away from it and throw the bag into the fucking bin. That will depend on the rank. You get s, a, b or c. If you miss, you'll get a c. If you go as far away as the corner, at the furthest end of the corner, you'll get an s. And then obviously, the closer you get, the lower the ranking. So the lower amount of money you get. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Who's chicken bin bags about, though? Me doing that in real life. Right, I'm gonna go for the. I'm gonna go for it. And it splits. You've just got yesterday's be all of it flow. [00:22:19] Speaker A: I know, it's fun, though. And I was playing it before I jumped on you. I was literally in the middle of a thing. I was trying to get enough money to get another arcade machine that I noticed is different to the other game. So I was like, oh, another VR game. Because the first VR game you get, which is different is a old school style fucking shooting game. So you put out a gun, you actually shoot targets, aim off the screen of the arcade and shoot the targets again. And I was like, it's like, it's like proper fucking old school fucking laser guns, like, kind of feeling to us, really fun. [00:23:04] Speaker B: You don't get more games like that. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Well, I know a lot, like, I don't know about nowadays exactly if there's any issues, but the reason why is, is since they switched from CRT to, like, LCD and what have you, the light guns weren't compatible with. With them in the sense of. I think the flickering of the CRT is what made them work. Something stupid like that anyway. Someone with more knowledge will probably explain, you're a lot bad, but it's something stupid like that. Which is why we don't care them anymore, I don't think. Because I just don't work. [00:23:41] Speaker B: But they do, meaning VR as well. This one about it seems like prime to get, like, did they ever do a time crisis or like a point blank or anything like that with VR? Could that be amazing if they did that? [00:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I gotta be honest, I was really enjoying arcade paradise, but I don't know if I want to go back to it now without the VR headset on, because it's just more fun. [00:24:12] Speaker B: So you've so ruined. You've sort of ruined. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll probably go back to. Because I would like to carry on because I, I think they haven't like added extra arcade machines, they've replaced some. So I wouldn't mind finding. No, or all the arcade machines are. And if you get more, I also want to check out the dlc ones because there's still a few I haven't played. But I wanted, I wanted, I will get one or two just to see what they were like. So I got two. And then I was gonna wait till I get all the normal arcade stuff before got the dlc ones, so I can, you know, try them after the fact. Uh, but it's good fun, man. [00:24:54] Speaker B: I've got a feeling we're gonna get, um, a mini review series of like the games inside, you know, arcade paradise we were doing. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Uh, my favorites are. Nah, but I think it would be, it could be fun to do just a little breakdown of each arcade game when you get them all. But, um. Yeah, I think, I think that if you give it more time, you'll enjoy it more simply because you'll have access to the arcade games where you can just sit down and play them a bit and not have to worry about the laundry. Do it on occasion for a bit of extra cash, but mainly play games. And another thing that it actually says in one of the tips is the more you play an arcade game, the more popular it will become and the more money you'll earn from it, because people will want to play it. [00:25:46] Speaker B: Okay, that's, um. Yeah, there is some truth in that, I guess. Because if you're in an arcade and someone's on a machine, you're like, they pick that machine, you know, and then you like, oh, I'll give that. So there is some sort of merit in that, I suppose. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah. There was another arcade game, I go in, in the, on the Xbox version, it was called blockchain. And I was playing, I was thinking, I don't even understand how this game fucking works. You have to drop numbers and shit and then you hack things with a thing and it's like, wha, wha. [00:26:20] Speaker B: Weren't that the whole thing with the blockchain, with the NFT games? [00:26:24] Speaker A: I have no idea. [00:26:26] Speaker B: Is it a spoof on that? I'm guessing it might be. [00:26:29] Speaker A: The thing is, is mostly games I saw on, if not all the games are kind of like a homage to a different arcade game from the past. So I don't know if there's something similar to that blockchain or if it's just their own kind of thing, but it was really weird. Well, another game I was playing actually was like missile something. No missile. UFO drop or something. And you go across the screen. Do you remember this old game? You'd go across the screen at the top and you'd press a button and you drop a bomb onto bloody massive skyscrapers. And obviously you'd have to blow them up so that as you're going across the top, the screen, you, every time you complete a loop of going from one end to the other, you come back to the side of like a roller yourself. So if you don't blow up the buildings that are higher, you'll eventually hit one and then you'll game over. So you just gotta keep blowing them up. That's another arcade game that was on there. [00:27:43] Speaker B: I don't think I've seen that one. It sounds like a reverse space invaders, but instead of aliens you've got buildings, you know? Yeah, but that's all let you. [00:27:54] Speaker A: So, yeah, like I was enjoying it, but I definitely prefer playing it in VR. I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, this is fucking cool. Yesterday it was the first time I played, I think I played it for 2 hours and I was like, I feel sick now. [00:28:08] Speaker B: How, how is the batch VR headset anyway? [00:28:12] Speaker A: What's that, man? [00:28:12] Speaker B: Are you enjoying the head? How is the bash headset? That tends to be like the drawback for me in VR gaming. Like how long you can spend doing it because like I think I've got a quest and the most I get out, that's like even 90 minutes to 2 hours. [00:28:27] Speaker A: Well, you know the PlayStation VRs wired. [00:28:33] Speaker B: Oh well that solves that problem then. [00:28:35] Speaker A: Yeah. One, unlike the, the PlayStation VR for the PlayStation four that you had to fuck around with loads of stuff. This is just USB C plugs into the PlayStation five and you're on your, on your way. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Oh, that's sweet. I saw when it first come out because I know it got a price break recently, didn't it? Because when it first came out, it was like, more than a console. I was like, sony, what are you smoking? Like, you can't release a peripheral that costs more than the actual console. [00:29:06] Speaker A: No, no. I think they could if there was massive support behind it, but it isn't. The good thing about this is as I can use it on the PC when I upgrade my PC, because I need to upgrade my PC first because 1070 isn't good enough for PlayStation VR two. [00:29:24] Speaker B: Yes. I remember when I was changing my piece over, which I mentioned before, and I could obviously, in the pandemic, so obviously trying to get hold of parts was a nightmare. So me and my brother needs to upgrade. Sadly, it was just a bad timing and managed to get older, 59, 50. So basically built my PC without the graphics card. So I had this super duper with a 1070 in it for like a year. Yeah, I played Horizon Zero dawn on it and it struggled to do that and stream at the same time. Yeah, the cpu did most of the lifting for that game. Lessen, but still, it was just like, I feel the pain in the 1070. I've been there. [00:30:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:21] Speaker B: Then watch it every day, try and get a new graphic card. [00:30:24] Speaker A: It's like, the annoying thing is when I got my 1070, it was fucking, like one of the best graphics cards you could have because I've had it for like, I know, eight years. [00:30:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. It was price point, wasn't it, from him. That's why I got. It went top range, but it was like upper mid range. It was, yeah, the money. It was the best bang for your buck sort of thing. Extravagant. [00:30:49] Speaker A: The issue now is graphics cards. I was looking at like a 40 90 or a 48 D or something. It's like a fucking grand. And I didn't pay much more than that for my fucking PC, but I built it a few years back, so. Fuck. Got off Nvidia, you fucking greedy bastards. [00:31:05] Speaker B: Well, my 1070 was dying at the time, so I was pushed. Come to shove, an elf. So I missed the first wave. But, yo, it was really hard to get graphics cards, really difficult. And brother messaged me and he got one night, I didn't fucking know. And it took months. And then they come because he skyrocketed like three grand, I think. Come back down to like two grand. I was like, look, I'm gonna have to pull the trigger because it's gonna die soon. So it's like, God damn it. [00:31:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it's fucking shocking how expensive it is. Man. You think it'd be cheaper now, but it's not. It's not right. You know, literally, a graphics card now is a lot more expensive than my PC. Fully complete. It's like, well, what are they smoking? [00:31:50] Speaker B: It's because in the pandemic, they. They got away with it. So they're like, well, why bring it back down now, right? It's like, if people got to pay it, why would we do ourselves out of pocket? That's. It's just greed at the end of the day. But, you know, there's nothing we can do, sadly. [00:32:09] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it is. People should just not buy them and buy a competitor brand, and then maybe they'll realize it's the price that's the problem. [00:32:18] Speaker B: That that's the problem, though. The competitors, not quite there yet. That's. The AMD's come a long way, but they're still, like, still a bit hit and miss, you know? Like, I've finally managed to make the switch to a D processor, which is awesome. But for a long time, they were a joke as well. You know, it's. [00:32:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:41] Speaker B: I think the thing that keeps Nvidia ahead is the drivers. Every time there's a new game release, there's a new driver for it. Yeah, well, I don't think he's on top of it as much. [00:32:52] Speaker A: I wouldn't have a clue. I haven't even looked at graphics cards for ages because it makes me sad. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I haven't anymore because I've upgraded. I spent quite a bit on it, and I was like, you know what? I'm that better last ten years. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:06] Speaker B: And, yeah, I'm still 1080p gamer as well, by the way. I've not made the jump up yet because it'll be expected. [00:33:13] Speaker A: I know, I know. The thing is, I've got a PlayStation five and an Xbox, and the PC can do 4k with some games. But for me, 4k doesn't add much compared to if I was just, like, if I was to go and buy a tv or even if it was just, if I was to get a tv and it was four k, the main thing I would want with it over the 4k is the HDR, because the HDR to me, is, is a bigger. A bigger leap than 1080 to honestly think the. The extra color on the deeper blacks and the whiter whites so much better than the 4k, you know, I mean, HDR is definitely a higher priority on my list over four k. Oh, yeah. [00:34:19] Speaker B: It's. My brother's got 1440 so I've seen 1440 and to me, look that much better, but that could be over my eyes as well. It's, um. But I've never looked at 1780 p and gone, this looks bad. Plus, the deck I'm on can't run fit anything more than a 24 inch, 23 inch monitor on it. So at that point you're not going to see the, you know, glow up because you need to be honest. It's a 27 inch monitor for 1440, 28, 30 minimum for four k to be, you know, worth it. So it's like, well, you know, and also I can run whatever game I want at whatever FPS I want because it's only doing a 1080. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Exactly. And that's another thing, higher frame rate is better than it looking a little bit nicer to some people. [00:35:12] Speaker B: This is going to be a bit controversial, but frame rate matters. And I hate comments of when people are like, oh, I can't tell, it's 30. It's like, trust me, if you're used to playing games 100 4120, you go back down to 50, you notice instantly. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Yeah, I've noticed that with, um, like games are you play on the PlayStation and you switch it from performance to graphical or whatever it's called sexy mode. And, yeah, looks better, but fuck me. Does it play like ass? [00:35:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Like all the games I play in performance, I've never played one in quality, just because it looks like ass. It's like me and my brother had this big difference of opinion in rebirth. He played it in quality mode, saying, it looks fantastic. I can't tell the difference when I put it in clitty mode, you can tell the frame just drop. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:09] Speaker B: And then I prefer playing performance. I'd rather it look a little bit muddy in places and run well. [00:36:14] Speaker A: Yeah, be smooth. You can really tell, especially with 30 frames per second. Like, when I was playing games a few years back, a lot more. My PC, I would always try and get 120 frames per second. However, like, I was playing Rocket league at 120 frames per second and I was like, yeah, this is much better. [00:36:34] Speaker B: I'm the same way. [00:36:35] Speaker A: Yes, especially. And while I don't think it makes much of a difference, I think certain games, it impacts a little less. Like, say you're playing like a puzzle game, it's not going to be as bad as at 30 frames compared to, say, 120. But racing games, fighting games, rhythm action games, some of them, the lower the frame rate is going to make it that bit more difficult than others. Fast, fast games need direct frame rate. [00:37:09] Speaker B: In my opinion, it's like cry five, play that 60 fine, you'll have a fantastic experience. You put that 144, it looks impeccable, but it's a lot of extra work for the cpu. But if you go, it's like some games, but if you go down to 30, you can really tell. It's like when I was saying earlier about getting bloodborne, I went back to bloodborne from played on my PC a lot and other things and I thought it's running like ass and it's not. It's because my adjusted to the 30. So I think when people have this 30 60 argument, they used to play on 60, and if you go from 60 to 30, not the most obvious thing in the world, but if you go from like 121, 44, oh my God, what happened? [00:37:53] Speaker A: To be honest, I noticed this between 60 and 30, but obviously 120 is where my sweet spot was. But now playing games, it's like, yeah, like I got my bought my PC plays Baldur's gate three, but it's at 60 frames per second at 1080p, which is perfectly fine for me because it's, you know, a fairly slow paced fucking game, like, and it's also really fun. [00:38:16] Speaker B: Yeah, I think 60 fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with 60. Like you can get away with 30 in a lot of places, but when you're doing games and stuff like that and action racing games where it's fast, that's when you can really tell. Yeah, like for story games and stuff, it's fine. But I do think some people use it as a, I'd rather a game look worse and run. Run better. [00:38:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:38] Speaker B: Then having a little bit of extra light and it's like, this is the. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Problem I'm finding with consoles in a way is like they keep pushing for better graphics and like higher resolutions, but they don't push in for better performance of the games. It's like make your game run at 120 frames per second and then make it look a little fucking worse. You know? [00:38:59] Speaker B: I do think there has been a disconnect of the players and the developers where developers are still in the old mindset of players want pretty graphics problem nowadays you're not getting the advantage you want, Scott, so you can't rely on graphics anymore to sell your game. I'd rather a game look okay, run well, exactly. I think a lot of people are more falling into that camp where it breaks emerging. Right. It looks pretty, but it runs like crap. It breaks the emerging. [00:39:27] Speaker A: Yeah, agreed. [00:39:31] Speaker B: Because you notice it, you're like hang on a minute, I'm playing a game. I know that sounds like a silly thing to say. We all aware we're playing a game but when you get lost in a game. [00:39:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:38] Speaker B: Sort of forget you just get involved in the game. So the second happens it just takes you out of it, which I think is a bigger problem. But you know. [00:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think I can disagree with you. [00:39:53] Speaker B: It's because that's what we'll play a lot of this play. I don't. I think everyone plays games for that little bit of escapism, right? [00:40:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, definitely. [00:40:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Like what I say to the misses, it's like, you know, playing games just helps a bit. You know, takes teacher, takes you out of the shit of life. [00:40:16] Speaker B: It's true though, does it is a bit joy out of adulting that we all, we all love soap so very much. And granted I don't do much adult incurs, you know, I'm still living, still living a young man's life. But still. [00:40:33] Speaker A: But yeah, like I said, I had the, the PSVR two yesterday and I've mainly played arcade sim, arcade paradise. And like I said, it's mainly because of the podcast. I was like, oh, I. I want to play it to talk about it for this because I, I thought I could talk about the differences and it's definitely better in VR, but it's still really fun. Normally I think I haven't played it since I had the vids at. But the other thing I played because I haven't played a lot on me. I did play a little bit of walkabout mini golf which is cross platform play. Cross play. So if I wanted to, if people were playing on a quest, on Steam or something, I could play with them, which is really cool. You know, more games should have cross platform play. And the other thing I was playing is beat Saber and that's really cool but it's fucking killer because my back is fucked and there's points where you have to bend and I'm like, and I'm like painkiller time. [00:41:42] Speaker B: I could just imagine you in one of those, one of those, you know with a little joystick on where you're moving left and right and stuff. [00:41:53] Speaker A: So you don't have to fucking bend. [00:41:58] Speaker B: I'm a big fan though of beat labor. I know, surprise. Shocking, right, for the games YouTube play. But after like an hour, like an hour and a half, 2 hours, I've had enough, you know, I've like need a break. [00:42:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it's because it's so fucking, uh, you know, intensive. It's like, I know you play a lot of rhythm action games, but I assume they using mainly your fingers, whereas that you're using your entire fucking body. [00:42:28] Speaker B: I do both. It depends. I've just not done my headset for a while. I need to hook it up to my PC by the steam link on the quest. [00:42:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:37] Speaker B: One game I will suggest if you are interested in doing a few more rhythm games with your VR headset, and that is a game called Ragnarok. [00:42:47] Speaker A: What's it called? [00:42:48] Speaker B: Ragnarok. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Is that on PS five? [00:42:53] Speaker B: I'm not sure if it's or not. I know it's on steam. Fair play. On steam. I haven't looked on the PS five because my won't do it. But it is a game where you are on a king boat and you hit four drums and it's like a heavy metal, metal soundtrack. Rock soundtrack. So the better you hit the drums, the further the boat goes. [00:43:13] Speaker A: That's. [00:43:13] Speaker B: And you're literally the viking. And like, I tell you what, it's knackering, mate. It's probably one of the most knackering experiences I've ever had. I did about three songs I like. I've had enough of this. Gee, I'm doing myself well. [00:43:28] Speaker A: When I upgrade my PC, I'll fucking play it because I can't. Fucking stupid PC. Anyone want to give me a PC, please? With a fucking 40 90 in Ithoodae? [00:43:40] Speaker B: I've got a spare 1070 laying around, but you've already got that. [00:43:43] Speaker A: The shame you can't plug in. The thing is, with the PlayStation VR two, there's something called threading that you need the graphics card to do. So, like, it's powerful enough, I think, to do VR on the PS two, you can do. It's VR capable. That I know, because when I set her up, it actually came up on the Nvidia stuff, when you're doing it, that it's VR capable, but threading or something, I think it's called threaded isn't a part, isn't available on a 1070. [00:44:15] Speaker B: So, okay. I thought Freddy was more the cpu, but I could be wrong. [00:44:19] Speaker A: It's the graphics card, supposedly. I think it's threaded. It might be something else, but I was looking it up and it won't work. And I was. It's got there because at the end of the day, playing it on the PlayStation five is great, but having even more options is not a problem. Like, it's a good thing. So when I get a better PC, because I need to, I need to upgrade the motherboard before I can upgrade the cpu. And I don't see the point in upgrading the graphics card if I don't upgrade the cpu. [00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah, you've got. Unfortunately with the generation check you kind of need to do the lot. It's kind of hard to bit part it. Yeah, because obviously you got, you'll have to. For the cpu you've hundred percent got to change them overboard for the graphics card. You could probably depart it like I did for a little bit, but at the same time, by the time and it's all gonna be new. But it's very hard. Like if you're changing cpu, we've got to be 100% new motherboard. Unless you're lucky enough for the upgrade to be the same socket, which you know is rare. [00:45:24] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the problem in it. [00:45:27] Speaker B: So then the fun times of building a new PC and then getting a random problem with it that nobody's had before, you don't know how to fix. But you just muddle through and fix it eventually. It's all part of being a PC game. [00:45:41] Speaker A: I remember building the PC and I was like fucking paranoid building a man. Because it's like this thing that just cost me fucking a couple of hundred pound. I'm having to loads of pressure on her and not snapping. [00:45:57] Speaker B: Have you seen what you have to do with the AMD ones? Or you have to do with the AMD ones? Me and my brother shit itself with this. So like 7950 quid or something. The top end chip. I've never had a nice PC before, so I thought, you know, for once I'm gonna get one. So what you have to do, because it's got the wrong bios in it, you have to flash the bios so you have to the motherboard up on the box and the chip in it. Now bearing in mind for people who, not PC gamers, if you mess up flashing the bios, you'll brick the chip. So if you have a power cut, something goes wrong that's 1000 pounds down the drain. The beads of set looking at it. You have to wait for all these like you read about it and then you leave it another 1015 minutes to make sure it's fully done. You don't want to touch it. And then when you're putting it together, please for. Please for the love of God. Yeah, it's like I've got, I've got a port on the back of my motherboard, you know, on back of the tap which is an extra USB port. But it's specifically for flashing the bios. But you can still use it as a USB port. Nothing goes in there I refuse to put in there. [00:47:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Just in case something happened. Cpu goes put. Like, I might be very. Being very illogical. It might. I mean, no chance this happening, but I can't, in my mind, take that, that port will forever be left unused. [00:47:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Nothing wrong with that, you know, but, yeah, it's just, you know, I can't even remember what I was gonna say. I'm like, I'm, like, about to say something, and then I forget what I'm gonna say. I think it's getting old. [00:47:42] Speaker B: I do the same thing all the time. You, like, walk away five minutes, like, oh, yeah, crap. Right, okay. [00:47:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Or you'll remember when you're in bed, oh, shit. [00:47:53] Speaker B: Or you have to do the whole thing of think about what you were thinking about beforehand and then work yourself back going, yeah, I'll think about this. But then, ah, that's what we're about. It's. I think it's an age thing, mate, if I'm being honest. [00:48:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I do too. Getting old. He did. [00:48:10] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it is what it is when it comes to us all, you know? [00:48:15] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. [00:48:16] Speaker B: At least we've got more fun things to do than, you know, people our age. Like, ten years ago. [00:48:22] Speaker A: Yeah, true, true. Well, to be fair, I'm just playing games. Like, I. Like, you know, I was ten years ago. I've, like, I had a family. Oh, I still have four kids ten years ago. I've still got four kids I'm not having anymore. That's a good thing. [00:48:44] Speaker B: But, yeah, it's, as I said, like, I think, like our parents, they must have had to get more creative hobbies than what we have now. You know, we. We looked up. We looked out growing up in the game generation, like, we got, you know, more or less at the ground floor, you know. [00:48:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:00] Speaker B: And never left me since. To be fair. I've had an obsession since zero five, and they've still got an obsession now. [00:49:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I've been playing games since, like, the late eighties, so it's fucking loved my nez. [00:49:18] Speaker B: I had. My first one was a Commodore C 64. Well, technically that's a lie. The Commodore C 64 was my first proper console. I inherited my uncle's. Is it vtrek v Trex? Vectrex. Oh, Vectrex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Inherited my uncle's broken one. You know, where you have to put the color visors on the top because it were black and white screen. [00:49:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:42] Speaker B: For each game, come with, like, a see through color visor. Like, you don't know how lucky they've got it nowadays. You'd put that on, and I remember the oop wouldn't work on the controller, but I thought it's the best thing ever. And then I played the Commodore quite a bit. And then when I didn't have any games to play, because you'd have the tape deck loader and wait 30 minutes to load a word of lie. 30 minutes. You know what I mean? Go out, play, come back, play it, five minutes, crack like crap. And then when you had no games to play, I actually. What I didn't realize what I was doing back in the day was I actually coding. So what I used to get the book, look at the. You know, the codes for the colors, and used to make pictures, pixel pictures, obviously. The sad part is you couldn't save any. So, you know, that's what I used to do. I used to make pixel. Look, I've been always, always will be a nerd. Always been a nerd, you know, is what it is. By looking back, I was actually. I didn't realize I was coding. [00:50:36] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. I had a spectrum to spectrum plus two, or whatever the fuck it was called. And the amount of time it take. And that noise is worse than the Internet. More dems Mandev. And it lasted a lot longer. [00:50:56] Speaker B: Is that the one with the tape built in? [00:50:58] Speaker A: It is, yeah. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Me uncle had one of them. Yeah. Was not that much older than me. Like, probably ten or so years. So he had all the toys. Yeah, he had a mega drive. And we. Me and my brother. I remember me and my brother playing streets rage for the first time till we got headaches at midanas. When he got out for the day, he must have hit it bad, like, playing on each game. Then, you know, he goes out, and then his two nephews are chuffing, hogging his sister all day. I'd be annoyed now. Be like, listen, kids, go outside and play. Go and touch the summer. Come back when you're older. I wouldn't. To be fair. I talk a big game, but still. [00:51:39] Speaker A: Yeah. My first console that I remember, it was like 88, 89. My parents got me a Ned's for Christmas. Like, I can't remember if I played any game before that, but I was told that I really wanted a Nintendo entertainment system, so I don't know why. So I must have played other games before then. I just don't remember it. But I remember I had it for Christmas. Had Super Mario Brothers with a duck hunt. I think I had one other game that I can't remember. And I had turtles, which was fucking solid. I could get to the dam and jump off it easy as fuck. But swimming through the dam was a bowl ache. Those fucking bombs and those fucking electric vines. [00:52:31] Speaker B: I only played a bit of that. My most mem remembered games on that system. There was free robocop two, which was the platform one. I don't remember that one, which I couldn't finish because it recordnaire in it. [00:52:49] Speaker A: See, I like the fact that back in the day, they didn't have constant updates because generally games are finished. But when you come across a game like that, then you look at games nowadays, like, I'm glad they do updates in some ways. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And then what's the other? I need to play a lot. And I. Big Freddy. Big Freddy's big top. It was a circus game. You got, like, it's brought back so many memories also. Flynn. Both Simpson versus space mute. I could never get past the second level. There was a jump on that l of escalator in the second level, and no matter how hard I tried, I could never do it. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I never got past the second level. When you got to pass the first level, we have to fight, if I remember correctly, fight an alien or mole. [00:53:38] Speaker B: It would never. [00:53:38] Speaker A: Someone at the end of the first. What's that? Nelson. [00:53:42] Speaker B: Nelson won it. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Nelson. I remember killing someone. Not killing. Beating someone at the end of a level and then going on to the second level and always dying and failing. [00:53:52] Speaker B: Yeah. At least it wasn't just me. I remember the Ghostbusters game on there where it was like a top down view where you control the chaser symbol. [00:54:02] Speaker A: Hmm. [00:54:04] Speaker B: That was a great game. [00:54:05] Speaker A: I don't. I don't think I played it. There's a. There's a. I think it's a Nez game or SNES game called, like, ghostbusters two, which was already released in Japan or something. And that was meant to be fucking amazing. [00:54:17] Speaker B: The best one growing up, I think, was a mega drive one. It was, um, where they had, like, chibi heads, like the big added characters. It was like an isometric view. But I can't think of the name of the game. Uncle had it. Yeah. Ghostbusters summit. But it was. It was really good. I like that one. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:36] Speaker B: I've been sucker for Ghostbusters. Look at this one is. I don't add the toys and. [00:54:40] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a. There's a Ghostbusters VR game that I downloaded on the PlayStation five because it's part of PlayStation plus within. I've no idea what it's called. I can have a look at her. [00:54:54] Speaker B: Might be that isometric one where one put a ghost and the others try to capture him. [00:54:57] Speaker A: I think that sounds fun. [00:55:01] Speaker B: I love the video. I love the third, the unofficial third movie game. I think we. She is what, 23, 60, weren't it? You know. [00:55:12] Speaker A: Yeah, there's the remastered version out of it I've got on the Xbox Series X, but I haven't played it yet. I played the original one, but I only played it a bit because I rented it and then I had to send it back. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Well, I've got it. I've got. I bought it recently. I'll say recent. Last year on PlayStation a fiverr. I was like, cool, I'll definitely go and play this. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna play this year. I think at some point I do like going back to games, like I could do, but I've already wanted to do like Luigi's mansion because I said I'd do it last year. [00:55:44] Speaker A: Luigi's mansion. Luigi's mansion. It's fucking amazing. The third one I loved, I didn't never finish the second Luigi's mansion because I just was like. [00:55:55] Speaker B: I've never played the second one. [00:55:58] Speaker A: I've only ever played master of it coming out. And they're on switch for the second. [00:56:02] Speaker B: It's already out. I bought it for like 40 quid. But I was like, oh, I've never played this one because I think it was on the DS and I've never really had until the switch. Yeah, I had the game Boy, the Game Boy advance. That's where I stopped. But I remember getting the game. Cute. The Luigi mansion for the game and loving the hell out of it. [00:56:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:22] Speaker B: And then I heard the two was after the DS. You know, I'm not getting a DS just for that. And then they released free for the switch. All that and free for the switch. Like, I'm gonna be honest, it's pretty good. Like, the fact they can get that visual out of that console is magic to me. I don't know how they've done it. Have you, have you played Luigi Manchester? [00:56:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I played through. I played through on stream, actually. And I really enjoyed my time with it. I thought it was cracking. Lovely looking game. [00:56:50] Speaker B: It was so good. [00:56:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:52] Speaker B: Did you, did you do. I did. Or what everyone else did on the sand level over to every bit the sand, trying to look for stuff. [00:57:01] Speaker A: No, you probably did, but my memory is so bad I can't even remember. I'd have to like, look back at my stream and check. [00:57:09] Speaker B: I remember doing that and I was just like, of course I do this. So there's big sand level, it's not ruining too much and you can literally suck up all the sand. And I'm convinced there's always stuff hiding in stuff like that. So I would just sat there, you know, sucking away and there's like, oh, there's nothing here. I've just cleaned up all this virtual sand for absolutely nothing. [00:57:31] Speaker A: But maybe there is something there. Don't. Don't you not suck up all the sand, listeners? [00:57:40] Speaker B: Well, there is something there, just not what I expected. [00:57:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it was fucking nothing. [00:57:49] Speaker B: It's not what you thought. The reward, it's the journey. Journey is the reward. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Brilliant. We'd be going now for an hour nearly. I think we'll wrap it up here before we go. As I ask people, are you, as you haven't finished arcade paradise, are you going to play more of it possibly in the future? [00:58:20] Speaker B: Yes, after a couple of games. After hearing this pinball, I'll definitely. A little bit more. [00:58:25] Speaker A: Yeah, there's some cool games on. There's a pinball game, there's a dance Matt style game, obviously done. Use a dance mat. You just use up down life right on your your. Because, you know, as I was saying. [00:58:41] Speaker B: Earlier, you know, flashy lights, fast action. Sounds pretty much like pinball. Right? [00:58:49] Speaker A: So, yeah, I think that'll be us. I would recommend to anyone, if you have. If you have a bit of patience, you'll enjoy. Oh, did you play. Did you ever press start and go to the PDA? [00:59:09] Speaker B: Yes. [00:59:09] Speaker A: Did you ever play llama? [00:59:12] Speaker B: No. [00:59:13] Speaker A: Is a Joe like on Google when you love the T Rex and you jump over the like, trees or ever. [00:59:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's that. [00:59:23] Speaker A: But your llama. [00:59:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:59:30] Speaker A: That'S fun. [00:59:32] Speaker B: I did the safing. I was like, why am I trying to crack into this safe? Every time we automate this a little bit, you know, you got to hold it left until it vibrates, right? Till it vibrates. [00:59:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I usually just go one direction because I'm lazy. Because you can. [00:59:47] Speaker B: I didn't know you could do that. I thought it was literally left and right when it. [00:59:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it does show that in the images to do that, but I don't. But it's different on the VR version. You actually have to turn it to a certain number. Turn it back to a certain number and turn it back again to a certain number. But it's always been the same number every time I played it, so I know it now. But just doing it like that makes sense. Whereas on the normal version of the game is a different number every fucking time. [01:00:20] Speaker B: Yeah, it's, um. You think, like, once you got the. The thing, you'd be able to automate it a little bit because the novelty wears off. You know, like, go for the save. Now I've got turn some dials, like where's going? [01:00:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I know. I gather that's. That's fair enough. There are some things that could be, like, streamlined a little, I guess. But I think overall, you've got a nice little game or set of games wrapped up in a, like a business simulation kind of thing, which you can kind of ignore a bit. [01:01:01] Speaker B: It'll teach us laundry. Okay. Adult in first, game second. Basically, it's a live simulate. [01:01:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Damn it. I was enjoying live. Yeah. That is gonna be us. Then I think it is time to wrap up. I would like to thank you again for taking part. It's always a pleasure to have you on. [01:01:36] Speaker B: Always a pleasure being here. And thanks for asking me. [01:01:39] Speaker A: No worries, man. We'll hopefully catch you again soon for another game. I'm not sure what game that will be. It might be. It might be something random, or it might be little nightmares three. [01:01:53] Speaker B: Probably going to be a little nightmare three in it. That seems to be our thing. [01:01:57] Speaker A: Yep, it is. It is. It probably would have been this time, but it's not out yet. Not that I'm aware of anyway. There you go. Right. Thank you very much. Bye bye, everyone. See you again next time. Bye.